|  Ok this is a lame post but i must ask... | wickerman1 Nov 27, 2003 6:24 PM | | I've noticed here that know one uses a kickstand on their bikes at all. Is it because its the uncool thing to have or is there an actual reason to not have one...or is it a weight weenie's issue. I can't stand not having one, nothing worse then lying your bike on the ground or looking for something to lean it on. I bought a kickstand a while ago, the same as the RCMP use here on their bikes... yes it was 28.00 but its a really good one and light as hell... i love it. |
|  I used one for a while... | GirchyGirchy Nov 27, 2003 7:40 PM | | ...until I bought an old Mongoose for my on-campus bike. But when my HardRock was my only bike, I used a kickstand. You're right...no way was I going to lean my bike on a metal rack outside of class and scratch my fork's uppers.
Mine was a nice Greenfield, all alloy and easily removable. A bracket attached to the rear dropout opposite the derailleur, and the actual stand was put on with a single allen bolt. It pointed back when not in use, so it didn't interfere with the pedals. Even so, I removed it when I would go offroading, so I didn't have to listen to it boing.
I didn't care about what others thought, it was damn handy. I miss it sometimes when working on my bike (no stand), but it stays upright pretty well when leaning on a wall. The main problem was remedied when I got the campus bike, so I took it off for weight and convenience. All I do is mt. bike with it now, and since I'd always take it off to mt. bike before, I might as well leave it off.
But it was handy. Maybe you'll start a trend! ;) |
|  yes thats what mine is too a Greenfield nm | wickerman1 Nov 28, 2003 6:07 AM | | |
|  for a townie maybe, for a trail bike never (nm) | george_da_trog Nov 28, 2003 7:55 AM | | |
|  Why not? | GirchyGirchy Nov 28, 2003 11:19 AM | | What difference does it make? A little weight and a boingy noise are all it adds. |
|  "A little weight and a boingy noise are all it adds" | Spiff Nov 29, 2003 1:34 PM | | That is already too much.
what is the problem in laying the bike on the ground ?
Gui |
|  You're right, that is lame...... | celly Nov 27, 2003 8:36 PM | | Don't forget to add reflectors to your wheels and pedals. Maybe some streamers, a basket and clothepin some hockey cards in your spokes. Seriously, why are you worried about lying it down on the ground? It's a mountain bike and it's expected to get dinged up once in a while. I must admit, haven't used a kickstand for a few decades and haven't missed one. Didn't even use one as a kid.
Whatever floats your boat. Must admit, I thought you were joking at first. ;-) |
|  I use one because,,.,, | wickerman1 Nov 28, 2003 6:10 AM | | I have my bikes in my living room and if I leaned them against the wall my wife screams at me because of the marks on the walls, being I'm in a 1 bedroom apt. and i dont have a bike stand, its also handy to use to work on. |
|  I use one because,,.,, | Hardline Nov 29, 2003 2:16 PM | | HMMM> Thats funny I still use the old bmx style. Flip it over onto grips and seat. Works for me. |
|  I didn't want my fork dinged up! | GirchyGirchy Nov 28, 2003 11:17 AM | | That was the main reason I used mine. I did NOT want to risk scratching the uppers on my Duke fork...I didn't want it to spew oil and air out a scratch while riding down the trail. Paint dings I can take, but scratches ruining my fork, no.
I'm in a small apartment also, and agree...it makes it easier to work on the bike, too. |
|  You are too obsessed about the stanchions [nm] | Spiff Nov 29, 2003 1:37 PM | | .. |
|  I am? Like I said, it's an air fork. | GirchyGirchy Nov 29, 2003 9:43 PM | | Air forks need good seals. I don't have the money to replace my fork if something happens. The racks on campus are nasty metal things, and if someone would happen to walk by and catch the rear tire of my bike, it would lean over and put a nice deep scratch in the uppers easy.
Obsessed? Maybe, but not without reason.
And I still don't see the big deal with a couple hundred grams and a boingy noise. |
|  uh ? | Spiff Nov 29, 2003 10:29 PM | | If you are riding that to a campus a scratched stanchion is the least of your problems. Been there($1,400 bike gone)... mountain bikes and campi do not mix (or pehaps they mix so well you end up parted from the bike...)
But anyway, it psycologically it helps you...
Gui |
|  Other than... | fred³ Nov 28, 2003 2:59 AM | | it getting caught on something on the trail and weight I can't think of a reason not to use one. Since I ride my bike 95%+ on the trail and it's almost impossible to find a flat/solid spot to use one it's kind of useless when I ride. Plenty of trees and soft ground to rest the bike and in 5 years of riding I've never so much as scratched my stanchions or anything else from not using a stand. |
|  used to be plastic ones | KL Nov 28, 2003 7:07 AM | | you could get that were fairly light and attached to the non-drive side chain stay. when it was folded up it pointed to the rear of the bike. My friend who used one loved it.
Kevin |
|  5 out of 17 bikes say "kickstands rule" | club Nov 28, 2003 7:39 AM | | with 17 bikes in my garage and wall stands for only 6 of them, that makes for a lot of bikes leaning against the walls. So my towners and utility bikes sport kickstands for storage ease. Kickstands are also very handy for utility use, you just step off at your destination and deploy the kickstand, no hassles hunting for a handy wall or tree to lean it against. |
|  had a k/stand on my hybrid first time I raced, got laff'd at so | ol-crank® Nov 29, 2003 6:29 AM | | haven't seen it since. It takes a big man to ride a kickstand on a finely deck'd ride so good on ya. |
|  Well yeah I'm a big man... | wickerman1 Nov 29, 2003 4:15 PM | | 257 pounds to be exact and 6 foot 4 lol
I really don't give a $hit if anyone laughed at my kickstand because later on I'll be laughing at the people who get scratches on their chi-chi bikes from laying it on the ground and whining like little ones about it |
|  but in soft sand you dont need a kickstand... | wickerman1 Nov 29, 2003 4:17 PM | | and the bike will stand on its own...
I learned this years ago when I was dirtbike racing that if you push the bike abit in the sand and lock the front brake, turn the wheel, and put a small pebble between the brake lever and the housing of the brake lever, the bike will not fall over. doesnt work on a hard surface well though |
|  I'm one of those folks laughing at your kickstand posts. | Pete. Nov 29, 2003 4:40 PM | | As well as your paranoia about scratching stanchions.
I also am one of the folks who uses something that can be found on every single ride, THE GROUND, to rest my bike upon when I'm not riding it.
It's a huge assumption on your part to think that the folks whowould be amused by your kick stand fetish would care about stanchion scratches, let alone whine about them like little ones.
[WARNING: The Surgeon General has determined that the following picture will cause you to experience severe anxiety] |
|  I'm one of those folks laughing at your kickstand posts. | ouch Nov 30, 2003 4:51 AM | | ooooohh doctor owwwww it hurts stop the pain!!! |
|  your barking up the wrong tree here Pete. | wickerman1 Nov 30, 2003 8:52 AM | | Its my kickstand post yes but i'm not the one worried about my stanchons getting scratched. I like my kickstand, and yes if I do some intense riding, 1 allen bolt takes it off in seconds so its not a problem... i guess I hurt your feelings about your chi-chi bike did I? Do't get me wrong I envy anyone who can afford a nice expensive bike, my old rockhopper with the bomber fork and SUN rims, and Formula rear disc hub, and front Parallax XT hub and LX drivetrain and NiTi frame, and race face turbine crank,and blackspire rings and Axiom saddle, and Pazzaz seatpost, for a total of 460.00 CAD will have to do. |
|  Another crazy assumption. | Pete. Nov 30, 2003 9:46 AM | | "i guess I hurt your feelings about your chi-chi bike did I?"
Uh, nope. No hurt feelings kickstand boy. Just amusement at your posts.
"I like my kickstand, and yes if I do some intense riding, 1 allen bolt takes it off in seconds so its not a problem..."
ROTFL! |
|  you know i heard on here that you were quite narrow minded... | wickerman1 Nov 30, 2003 11:15 AM | | Now i can see that you actually are.
Whatever turns your crank...chi-chi boy. |
|  ROTFLMAO! "norrow minded"? | Pete. Nov 30, 2003 11:19 AM | | You mean like someone that posts tripe like this?
"I really don't give a $hit if anyone laughed at my kickstand because later on I'll be laughing at the people who get scratches on their chi-chi bikes from laying it on the ground and whining like little ones about it."
Or this?
"i guess I hurt your feelings about your chi-chi bike did I?"
No, being amused by folks who make huge assumptions isn't narrow minded, it merely being amused.
Have to go now. It's time for some "intense" riding... |
|  I guess you've never had a kickstand... | jeffj Nov 30, 2003 5:46 AM | | flop down on you while riding a trail. If you don't notice it before you make a left turn, the results can be "bad". Been there, done that, almost "bought the farm." Yes, mine was a Greenfield too.
Now. I have a small elastic band that is a couple inches long that sticks out the end of my handlebar that will slip over the end of a depressed brake lever. Then you can lean it against something very lightly and it stays upright pretty easily. It will slip into the end of the handlebar if I want it to while I am riding.
Reminds me of why I stopped wearing my wedding ring when I was a carpenter. I wore it for a while even though I had heard stories of bad things happenning to guys that wore rings at work, but I was gonna be different. Until the day my ring caught on the top of a stake on a stakebed truck as I jumped down off of it. For an instant, I thought my finger was going to be ripped from it's socket. The ring finally unsnagged and let me fall to the ground.
IMHO, riding a mountain bike can be dangerous enough without adding unnecessary risk, somewhat like riding without a helmet or gloves or mounting a mojo on your handlebars that might snag your "parts" as you fly over the bars.
Be informed of the risks and the rest is up to you. |
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