|   Kroll mountain bike frames | CTRider
Nov 21, 2002 1:06 PM | | I thought I'd turn to this forum for information on Kroll frames.
Someone has a 17.5" Kroll frame for sale in New England and he's asking $110. I'm not sure how old it is. In addition, according to the seller the frame developed a small crack near the seat binder bolt which was repaired by Ted Wojcick (New England based frame builder). Should I be concerned about the repaired crack and is this a really good deal on a steel frame?
Could it turn into a sweet SS Bike?
I think the size would be right for me. I'm 5'10" with a 30" inseam without my Answer Talvera's on my feet.
Should I pursue this opportunity further or let it pass?
Any feedback would be welcome. |
| re: Kroll mountain bike frames | blackgasmask
Nov 21, 2002 1:30 PM | | I think its croll. crolls rock. theyre made in minneapolis. Ive never ridden a croll mt bike but theyre cross frames are sweet. Id buy it. in fact if you dont, give me his email so I can. I dont need another bike but whats $ and space, right? |
| I'm the guy selling the Croll Mountain Frame | Tom 411
Nov 25, 2002 11:18 AM | | It's still for sale, so if you're interested in buying it
E-mail me here:
mtbtom TAKEOUTTHESPAM at hotmail TAKEOUTTHESPAM. com
Later !!!!
Tom |
| I'm the guy selling the Croll Mountain Frame | CTRider
Nov 25, 2002 11:50 AM | | Tom,
I was hoping to look at the frame this Friday if you might be around.
Let me know!
mmcgrath@foundation.uconn.edu |
| I think that they are not in business anymore | amsmith
Nov 21, 2002 1:46 PM | | I had a friend who had a Croll gearie. He cracked the frame last fall, he tried several times to get in touch with Croll to have the bike repaired, however he was never able to talk to anyone at Croll. The only conclusion that could be reached is that Croll is no longer in business.
He did like the frame.
Aaron |
| Croll is out of business.... | martini
Nov 21, 2002 2:03 PM | | I knew/know the guys that were involved. I wouldn't worry about the repair job, esp. if T. Wojick did it. And at $110, how can you go wrong? use the new calculator that Poison Chicken made up and go to town! If you don't take, let me know, that's my wife's size and she could use a steel SS so I can get rid of that Specail ed M2 she's riding now!
marty |
| Croll is out of business.... | CTRider
Nov 21, 2002 2:49 PM | | The bike is described as being blue with white tiger stripes with a matching blade fork and I'm pretty sure it includes a bottom bracket and headset.
What would I need to make the conversion complete in terms of drivetrain? Crankset, front chainring....can you buy a single speed specific wheelset? If so, where and what do you recommend for someone on a budget?...
Has anyone done a single speed on a real tight budget and if so, what did you use to finish off your frame?
Please help as I'm really excited about the possibilities this frame offers.
Originally I was going to get a FS frame and swap parts from my geared Marin hardtail over to it and then make the Nail Trail my SS ride...but this may change my plans. |
| How we all started | spookySS
Nov 21, 2002 7:59 PM | | or at least me and many many other people, if not all.
converting to singlespeed:
i converted my bike from geared to ss, so i already had components, but a lot of people just use a normal wheelset, freehub, etc. what they do is take apart an old cassette and steal the spacers from them (i went down to the LBS and asked for some old beat up cassettes and did this) and i took one of the cogs (mine was a 16 tooth cog)from one of the cassettes. i still use the same cranks, but only have the middle chain ring on the spider. aligned the spacers so that the cog lined up perfectly with the chainring. took a lot of length off of the chain. and use my old rear derailleur as a tensioner (i get a fair amount of crap for having a tensioner at all, its a warning). you can use your larger chainring as a bash guard (just take the teeth off). but if you don't have components to put on the new frame, look at webcyclery.com, you can get ss specific hubs and cranks adn chain tensioner. etc.
spooky |
| What you need to do is: | martini
Nov 22, 2002 6:20 AM | | Ok you've got a great start in the Frame fork headset and BB.
You'll need:
Stem
Handle bars
Brakes
Brake levers
Cranks ~ebay's been a great source for me
Chain ring - preferably non ramped. You can get these cheeeep from your LBS.
Single ring bolts - ~$5 from LBS
Wheels - go to jenson and pick up any set of cheap wheels. I'm sure you could find a great deal on an LX level wheel set and be very happy. Then you NEED a DX BMX cog, don't use a cassette cog. The ramped teeth encourage the chain to derail. The DX cog is only like $3 to boot. Get teh spacers from the shop too. Old cassettes are every where.
Seatpost
Seat
brake cables & housing.
pedals
Tires/tubes.
I'd say max total you'll spend is about $350(that's buying everything on the cheaper scale.) Of course you could spend alot more than that. But why? If you've got a good hook up with a local wrench, I'm bettign that he'll have a ton of parts laying around that he'd be willing to part with cheap(or better yet, free) that'd let you off even cheaper.
let us know if you need help, we're all more than willing to lend a hand.
ml |
| bought a croll off ebay earlier this year... | otisbirdsong
Nov 21, 2002 3:27 PM | | and have been very happy with it.
I'd agree with martini, if T.Wojick ficed the crack I wouldn't worry about it. |
| bought a croll off ebay earlier this year... | CTRider
Nov 21, 2002 3:33 PM | | Sorry about the initial mis-spelling of the name of the company. But now I'm really interested in this frame.
I'm not a wrencher and am not a veteran Single Speeder(hell I'm not even a beginner...this would be my first SS rig if I can score the frame, fork, headset and bottom bracket from the seller). I do know someone who is a good bike mechanic who I think would be willing to help me.
Anyone care to be my online mentor to help me with the parts I need to complete the build-up on a tight budget? I'm willing to take my time and score good deals over the winter.
Or better yet is anyone from this forum living in Northeaster Connecticut? :-) |
| bought a croll off ebay earlier this year... | GMF
Nov 21, 2002 9:55 PM | | "Anyone care to be my online mentor to help me with the parts I need to complete the build-up on a tight budget? I'm willing to take my time and score good deals over the winter."
Of course! That is what this forum is about, right? :-) Ask away... you'll find SSers a very friendly group.
If you are patient with deals, you'll easily get a SS for less than $250 (probably closer to $200).
There is a sweet used parts store not too far from me (Trips for Kids... a non-profit agency). If you are looking for anything in particular, i can swing by there and check it out. Always looking for an excuse to swing by! For example, you can get a set of new race face cranks, mis-matched colours in a 110 bolt pattern for $50.
Good luck, and have a ton of fun building up your own personal custom SS.
-GMF |
| wrench? | steelbike
Nov 22, 2002 4:06 AM | | I hate to throw a wrench into this mess but ;)
if you're not a wrencher how are you going to build up this bike on the cheap? Since you don't wrench I'm assuming you don't have tools all over the house and floor and garage like most gearheads.
This Croll is still going to be a conversion unless you ebb it or h-drop outs . If the budget is tight why the heck don't you just convert your current ride instead of building up a bike that will be a convert anyway and more expensive?
Croll + Wojcek = $110? Something is missing from the equation.
Try SS Convert yet? |
| wrench? | CTRider
Nov 22, 2002 5:38 AM | | I'm waiting on the seller to send me more information including photos and if said seller is close enough I'll go have a close-up look at the Croll.
Although I'm not a wrencher I do know someone who is and that individual has offered help (he's looking for a project.......and is currently set with all the rigs he needs right now).
If the frame doesn't look up to snuff, I'll go a different route for sure.
Initially my goal was to get feedback from this forum as to the quality of a Croll frame first and foremost. When reviews came back favorable I carried the idea and the conversation further.
I'm definitely approaching this with caution.
Thanks for keeping me "in the real" so to speak.
Cheers! |
| Buy it and start wrenching! | Jeff
Nov 22, 2002 5:57 AM | | You can't beat the price,even if it's been abused.It,s a great way to learn how to turn a wrench.
Jeff |
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