|   Non MTB... Is this statement true? | Jonesy
Sep 7, 2002 10:14 AM | | "You're better off making 1/2 as much money and being happy with your job, as you are making alot of money at a job you dont really like."
If this is true, any real world examples from the passionites? I currently make just under $100K, but dont really like my job. I'd be willing to make 1/2 that much if I could be at a job I really enjoy and believe in. Am I nuts? My family says I am. |
| absolutely, but | Mtn Mike
Sep 7, 2002 10:24 AM | | You spend a significant portion of your life at work. There are two basic groups of people. For group 1, their job IS their lifestyle. These are the people that should love their work. For group 2, a job is just a way to afford a lifestyle. Hopefully the people that work to afford a lifestyle are not working too hard or for too many hours. Those that love their job probably work more hours. I don't think it's a question of money however, both groups can make a lot, or a little. my thoughts
Mike --> loves his job but is poor. |
| you make a good point | moschika
Sep 7, 2002 12:43 PM | | but constitutes as low pay? i think it's relative to what you are doing and where you live and is it enough compensation for what you are doing?
when i used to work for non-profits $10/hour was good pay. never thought i'ld make over $15/hour and i probably wouldn't if i stuck with CBOs. i never consider my work my lifestyle but it creates community for me. so in some ways it is.
but what i've found is that the more i make the more i spend and i'm still broke but i do have some nice toys. i enjoy what i do for the most part but i also miss the "simpler", low responsibility jobs that didn't pay much. i think it's about the grass is always greener thing.
also how much do you really need to make to live comfortably? |
| that depends on where you get your "enjoyment" from | Jm
Sep 7, 2002 10:27 AM | | me, i am "ok" doing something that I really don't like, as long as the money is good, because I use the money for my hobbies and to stay happy, riding my bikes and doing stuff as far as that is concerned, so as long as I can support that I am happy.
However, when I was in high school I saw that I would need to make some SERIOUS money to do the kinds of things that I want to do. Instead of picking the job that I thought that I would "love the best", I picked something that I felt sure that I could do and be "reasonably" happy doing, and make a large amount of money.
So I am in my 2nd/3rd year of school right now to become a commercial pilot, and I won't be making tons of money right after school, but I know that I will eventually and that I will be pretty happy flying.
the money comes first though, then my "liking" the job, because I get my enjoyment from other places. |
| that depends on where you get your "enjoyment" from | moneyshot
Sep 7, 2002 10:33 AM | | Jm...my friend is in his second or third year working for Continetal Express. He doesnt make much money at all flying, but if he bides his time, in a few years he should be doing pretty well, and flying the "big" planes.
(that is, if the airline industry ever picks up again)
as far as the statement goes, i totally agree....id much rather be happy and live with less "material" stuff, than be at a sh*tty stressful job and have alot of money. |
| well all I am saying is it depends on what you enjoy | Jm
Sep 7, 2002 12:28 PM | | if you enjoy hobbies, sports and recreation then obviously you need some $$$ to do it, and job might be secondary to that. I will be happy flying, one of the few things that I think that I would actually be happy doing every day as a job, but by no means is it the only thing I can be "good" at.
Yeah, it takes a while to make the big money, lots of dedication and time, but when you DO get there...trans-atlantic pilots flying the big boys make upwards of 200,000/yr. |
| I took a lower paying job and... | 82much
Sep 7, 2002 10:59 AM | | am VERY glad I did although it was only about a 1/3 paycut for me. My family thought I was stupid too but they did not realize how I was feeling about my then-current job--I was on a slow downward spiral. I'm much happier since this new, lower paying job has greater non-monetary rewards. I am actually able to grow professionally and learn new skills! Plus, I'm still making enough to get by and then some since I changed my spending habits a little bit. Good luck whatever you decide to do. |
| How much money did J.Paul Getty leave when he died? | Stinker Suaez
Sep 7, 2002 11:10 AM | | Every frickin' dime of it. |
| I find I can't really answer this question | Dragonfly
Sep 7, 2002 11:20 AM | | since I have a low paying job AND I hate it.
But I will say that from where I stand, I think you're nuts. LOL
As long as you can leave work at work, have time off, vacations etc...A high paying job is just that. A job.
(that gives you lots of money) |
| re: Non MTB... Is this statement true? | forkintheroadforkonmybike
Sep 7, 2002 1:40 PM | | What kind of job do you have? Seriously, if I made that much money and contemplated doing something else that I love for half as much, I would first consider using my 'big' money skills and applying them to a side business, hobby, or adjustment in my job that lends itself to the things that I like. I would try this first before throwing in the towel for something that significantly alters my finances.
I am an Architect, and although I love the profession, it is a real let down in-terms of the expectations I desired from a career stand point after spending all the those years in school; and to top it of it doesn't pay well. I think all careers have high points and low points, nothing is perfect. Because of this I have found myself divulging in side hobbies like mountain biking and other things to compensate for the lack of passion that my profession has not completely given to me.
I guess for me, variety has sort-of become the spice of life. Maybe you can do volunteer work in the job you really enjoy and believe in, and try to get more people in your current work place to help your cause. |
| what's your priority brotha...? you already know the answer. | mootinator
Sep 7, 2002 1:56 PM | | |
| I call it...."working to live, instead of... | Duckman
Sep 7, 2002 5:31 PM | | ...living to work"...Simple, but non-the-less true. Been where I'm at for 23yrs. Won't go any higher cause to do so, one has to give himself away sorta. They demand full commitment for such. Screw them.
Theres waaay too much to still do. Shoot me if golf is all I have to look forward too, and the rest of the time spent watching others do stuff(spectating).
I like being the "do-er"(is that a word?:). I'm 44 and still WW kayak, mtn bike, and backpack pretty much daily(I have whitewater 30 minutes away, and mtb trails just as close), and will continue to do so until my bod won't let me any longer. I won't be that guy who just turned 50something and thinks to himself..."damn...and I haven't done one damn thing this whole time have I?".....Neeep |
| YES it's true | tekker
Sep 7, 2002 9:36 PM | | If you don't want to be fueled by money, do what you feel in your gut. It looks like your heart is in the right place. Chances are you already know the answer to this question, am I right? No, you're not nuts. And your family will be happy if you're happy. Doesn't it seem like lots of old people have stories about this? I'm no hippie but money isn't everything, they're paying you a lot because you're giving them a lot. Do what you love, it's not a cliche.
I've been employed in high paying jobs and spent years in school, now work for a mid-salary position, but I am fascinated with the daily aspects it offers. I'm glad I finally got here. |
| Selling out, temporarily. | JustALeaf
Sep 8, 2002 3:56 AM | | From an account profile I use...
Occupation: Getting Kicked While I'm Down
Hobbies: Living miserly until I can eliminate "Occupation".
Notice, I said "miserly", not "miserably".
I'm confident (or deluded) that I'll eventually happen upon that one idea that will parlay a hobby into a business idea that will pay the bills and put an eternal smile on my face. Meanwhile, I've somehow managed to arrange for my career to slip me into a well-paying "leaf on the big tree" position at a large company. I have no aspirations of moving up the ladder, and in fact, I feel like a bit of a sell-out as it is. But I ride to work, do what is asked of me very well (but I don't seek additional tasks), I get shat upon quite often, but then I ride home and forget about it.
Maybe I'm currently "not living" for part of my day, but it's certainly paying for my future and makes my playtime a whole lot more enjoyable. I come to life outside of work. "Compartmentalization" is the key to making staying at the higher-paying job possible.
I see the day ahead when I'll NEED to move toward Jonesy's other option or go crazy. I'll know when it's time, and I'll be very happy with my decisions then as I am right now. |
| I'm surprised no ones posted this yet.. | fû
Sep 8, 2002 6:59 AM | | On Work, Kent Berburn
Just common sense, but we can loose perspective so quickly with all of life's inconsequential details bogging us down that it helps to be reminded every now and then. |
| re: Non MTB... Is this statement true? | ahasbeen
Sep 8, 2002 10:20 AM | | It seems for the most part that it does not matter what kind of money one makes...We tend to spend allmost all we make.I was working for a company and decided to switch professions and make about twice the money.The bank account never seemed to pile up though.We still spent most of it.The new job demanded me to be out of town from monday until friday and when my daughter got to be about a year old and cried when I would leave and get really excited when I got home my wife and I decided it was time for another change.I went back to the same company I had quit two tears before and cut my money back to allmost 1/2.Seems that I can still get all the bills paid and see my daughter everyday too.Having my cake AND eating it!Good luck on your decision. |
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