|  A bit of climbing-a LOT of downhilling! Another CS adventure | Kitchenware Oct 7, 2002 10:26 AM | | DaveM and I are becoming quite the 'Springers here lately. On Saturday we cruised down to Colorado Springs, once again, to meet up with Kristian and Jason at the VanBriggle pottery museum. No, we werent there to see pottery, we were there for an EPIC DH! We're talking enough climbing to appease any XC dork ;) and enough downhilling to make any dher wanna, well.... you know. All said, by the end of the day, I spent all reserve energy, ate everything I had, crossed many bridges, saw more military aircraft than ever before, nearly killed the Bullit, nearly killed myself, did a bitchin' nose manual (briefly, and on accident), had fun and didn't thank Kristian nearly enough for that amazing ride.
Anyway, on with the pics and CARNAGE!
First up is Jason, just into the ride and sporting blood.
Sorry for the poor zoom quality, I was too lazy to get off my bike. |
|  kristian rounds the corner | Kitchenware Oct 7, 2002 10:27 AM | | and searches for a clean line through the creek. |
|  daveM trying to avoid the underwater ob-stackels | Kitchenware Oct 7, 2002 10:29 AM | | (OBrother reference) |
|  Feet too dry? | Kitchenware Oct 7, 2002 10:30 AM | | How bout a dip...
I think we all managed to get a wet foot or two here. :) |
|  daveM reviews the ride so far... | Kitchenware Oct 7, 2002 10:31 AM | | he's not having fun, is he? |
|  daveM wishing I would have used fill flash | Kitchenware Oct 7, 2002 10:36 AM | | daveM on a turn that's a bit more difficult than it looks.
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|  daveM, very next section. | Kitchenware Oct 7, 2002 10:40 AM | |
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|  myself | Kitchenware Oct 7, 2002 10:42 AM | | Just about to take the turn
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|  And on around the turn. STIL | Kitchenware Oct 7, 2002 10:46 AM | | STIL
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|  Legs and lungs to spare. | Kitchenware Oct 7, 2002 10:51 AM | | Jason owned us on the climbs and he's rather proficient when it points down too. :D
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|  Muy excellente! | Zonic Man Oct 7, 2002 11:05 AM | | Gotta trade you a CS tour for a downieville tour.... |
|  Sure | kristian Oct 7, 2002 11:18 AM | | That was the first time I've linked all of those trails together. With the exception of the mile of 4x4 road climb at the top (which we could have driven), we went less than 100 yards that wasn't singletrack in the whole ride.
It will be a while before I'm in California, but your welcome to a tour any time! |
|  Wanna freak me out? | Kitchenware Oct 7, 2002 10:54 AM | | Make me ride on a trail where a mistake to the right could cost you life and/or limb. (see drop off to the water in kristians pics to come) |
|  oops, huge pic. (nm) | Kitchenware Oct 7, 2002 10:54 AM | | nm |
|  D@mn... | JimC. Oct 7, 2002 3:52 PM | | nothing like a fall off a cliff to ruin yer entire day! Beauty shots, Jim. Jim (busted rear shock, reduced to running) C |
|  Kitchenware on my least favorite spot | kristian Oct 7, 2002 10:55 AM | | It's hard to tell here, but there is a 40 foot cliff on the right that leads to a solid rock stream bed. |
|  Can you say, "Pucker factor?" | pedalAZ Oct 7, 2002 11:14 AM | | Wow. That would get anyone's attention. |
|  I see the line! | JimC. Oct 7, 2002 3:54 PM | | focus on roots, wobble, look down. Never fails. I ain't riding that, I'd be a splotch on the riverbead, and you bastidges would be fighting over my bike. Jim *chickenheart* C |
|  Mmmm.... Loved that spot... | Knolly Oct 7, 2002 10:35 PM | | One of the coolest sections on that trail. How' ya doing Kristian?
Noel |
|  Hey Noel! | kristian Oct 8, 2002 6:10 AM | | I'm doing pretty well. How's your arm healing? Are you riding much? I've been doing a lot of lift serviced riding this summer so I feel pretty decent on the downhills--haven't done nearly enough climbing though...
Any plans for a Colorado trip next year?
K |
|  DaveM on the same section | kristian Oct 7, 2002 10:55 AM | | Sorry about my belated trigger finger Dave! |
|  YEEEEE-HAWWWW!! Thanks kristian! That was a GREAT ride! | daveM Oct 7, 2002 8:35 PM | | Man, that was FUN! I'm ready for another run. What a fantastic weekend! I think that I'd rather go down to the Springs, than to some of them fancy outa-state ride spots!
It was nice to meet you Jason! You set a new record for me, I don't think that I've ever been dropped on a climb so quick! Give a shout to me or KW if you're up this way.
Thanks for the shuttle Jim, I don't think that I would have made it home without 'cha! Da' Bull-eet, she's indestructable! |
|  I'm glad you could come down | kristian Oct 8, 2002 6:14 AM | | You'll have to come down for a tour of the Park sometime once the snow starts flying up there! |
|  kristian making his way down | Kitchenware Oct 7, 2002 10:56 AM | |
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|  right around the corner | Kitchenware Oct 7, 2002 11:01 AM | | Remember talking about sitting on your tire? You're only a couple inches from a tire wedgie. :)

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|  Is that a cigarette packet in his rear pocket ? | Spiff Oct 7, 2002 10:59 PM | | Great pics folks.
Gui |
|  Fun! | jonny boy Oct 7, 2002 10:58 AM | | Looks like everyone but me got out to enjoy the beautiful sunny weather this weekend. Well, at least I got to brew a beer yesterday, so I could drink and dream of the next adventure.
I feel like I'm falling off the technical learning curve, becoming a "roadie on dirt" who likes to climb and enjoys smooth singletracks down. Must come with marriage, initially anyways, maybe I'll outgrow it... |
|  The view... | kristian Oct 7, 2002 11:00 AM | | ...from after something like 3,000 feet of descending and 1,300 feet of climbing. |
|  Another picture of the helicopters Kware posted yesterday | kristian Oct 7, 2002 11:01 AM | | The top one is a Chinook and the bottom one is an Apache that crashed two weeks ago on a training mission. Too bad I didn't get a picture of the chunk that fell of the Apache... |
|  And a bit of carnage. DTIL! | Kitchenware Oct 7, 2002 11:05 AM | | *sniff, sniff*
And the offending piece of earth...
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|  Do you have a side picture of that? (and the story behind it) | kristian Oct 7, 2002 11:28 AM | | That is probably the deepest/worst ding I've ever seen in a mountain bike--the picture doesn't do it justice!
Jim was planning on dropping a rock slab that was a little longer than a bike lenth long. You had to lift up about about 6" to get onto the slab. The plan was to try it first and then to take pictures on the second take. He rolled up to the rock, got up on the rock with his front wheel, nose-wheelied the entire lenth of the slab and then proceeded to bounce down the trail until coming to a full stop. Up until the crash, he looked just like Wade Simmons doing a nose-wheelie. I'm not sure what was louder--our collective *gasp* or the noise the swingarm made connecting to the rock! |
|  hows this? | Kitchenware Oct 7, 2002 11:37 AM | | lol, now it looks bad!
I took it out for some testing yesterday. I took a few 3.5'-4' drops to flat off the post office loading dock and it looks ok.
We'll see... |
|  Holey... | lidarman Oct 7, 2002 11:54 AM | | I can make you a clamp on splint for that. |
|  All he needs... | kristian Oct 7, 2002 11:57 AM | | ...is a couple of popcicle sticks and some duct tape!
Send that picture to Scott@SC and see what he says Jim. |
|  I'm afraid to ask Scott. lol | Kitchenware Oct 7, 2002 12:01 PM | | I think it'll be cool to ride for a while, but I shouldn't count on it lasting forever like that. No biggy... It might not do me any good to get it repaced, I was looking at 5th's for a Christmas present, so a new frame would be more cost effective.
Jim |
|  $250.... | CraigH Oct 7, 2002 12:02 PM | | and you'll have room for an 8" rotor, a stronger chain stay cross brace and the new shifter cable routing along the chain stay instead of down the seat stay. |
|  What's the cost of a 5th... | Kitchenware Oct 7, 2002 12:11 PM | | or Avy? If I was going to upgrade the shock wouldn't it be smarter to just buy a new Bullit frame?
Jim |
|  $300 for the 5th. Don't know about the Avalanche.... | CraigH Oct 7, 2002 12:23 PM | | With the big dent in your swingarm, it might be hard to sell your current frame now. |
|  I'd replace it if I sold it. | Kitchenware Oct 7, 2002 12:26 PM | | I just don't quite know yet what route I'm going to take. ??? |
|  If you want a complete 02.... | CraigH Oct 7, 2002 12:47 PM | | $250 swingarm (crash replacement)
$200 front triangle (crash replacement)
$300 5th Element (new)
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$750 new frame, shock with spare Fox |
|  avalanche: $450 w/o remote compression adjustment | narlus Oct 7, 2002 1:56 PM | | another $100 with.
based on what i've heard, seen, and experienced, the avalanche is definitely worth the extra coin. |
|  Oops! | CraigH Oct 7, 2002 11:59 AM | | Keep and eye on the dent to make sure it doesn't turn into a crack. |
|  Only three more Bullits... | kristian Oct 7, 2002 11:07 AM | | ...and my car would have been a six-shooter!
I think we need to hire a photographer for next time--6,000 feet of descending and that's all the pictures we got??? |
|  Nice Pics | JFR Oct 7, 2002 11:42 AM | | Thanks! |
|  Thanks Kristian... | jasonb Oct 7, 2002 2:37 PM | | ..for a great ride. Look forward to riding with Jim and Dave again in the near future. When we up for Boulder County ride? I got my butt down to Full Cycle and picked up some of the 661 shin/knee guards this morn and I broke out the good'ol salsa quick-release seatpost collar. No boxxer in my future but will make a few adjustments for the next ride and see if I have a bit more control on the steeps. See you soon...
jason |
|  Any time Jason! | kristian Oct 7, 2002 3:01 PM | | I'm glad you were able to come! I'm hoping to get up there sometime before the snow really starts flying (maybe the weekend after next?). |
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