|   What's your favorite position? very [o] | brianc
May 30, 2003 6:07 AM | | No this is not a Poll. In fact, the title has nothing to do with this post. I'd like to ask you all here in Passion-land for a little help. Please visit http://www.saveotero.org and sign our petition to help save a gem of a MTB trail system.
We need your help in our efforts to save the best trail-system in the Albuquerque area. The "Otero Canyon Recreational Area" as we have started to call it is a network of sweet single track through Juniper, Pinon, and Ponderosa Pine forest. The trails are rocky and fast. The main 18-mile loop is in eminate danger of being closed by the DOD. Yes, the trails cross onto the DOD "withdrawal" land they seized from the Forest Service after WWII. However, the area has been used by Mountain Bikers, Hikers, and bird watchers for more than 30 years.
In the post 9/11 era, the DOD has a new surplus of funds, so in their infinite wisdom they have decided to put a fence around the Air Force Base. They've just thrown out their own environmental assessment study and are taking the hard-line approach of placing the fence on the withdrawal boundary line. Paying no attention to Topological or environmental impact concerns.
What is important to Mountain Bikers is that this placement of the fence will cut off 2/3 of the trail system at Otero Canyon. As par for the course, the closed off section will eliminate the best sections of single track for mountain biking.
We are trying to convince the DOD and Kirkland Air Force Base to place the fence along an existing service road in a canyon. This placement will keep all the DOD's areas of interest protected inside the fence and keep the otero trails system open to the public.
Would you all please go to our website: http://www.saveotero.org and sign the petition. We need your help convincing the authorities that this is a very important recreational area not only for ABQ, but also for the U.S. as a whole.
Thank you,
b
http://www.saveotero.org |
| Well, the woman has to be pretty limber but. . . | JS5280
May 30, 2003 7:46 AM | | Wait, doesn't [o] mean that photos are attached via HTML because the little camera icon doesn't show up for those? Or does it mean off topic? Is there a Geek Iconographer in the house? |
| [o] is for o..... | brianc
May 30, 2003 8:01 AM | | on topic. i.e. MTB related. the direct oposite of [OT] which the subject line of my post implies. I just needed to get some views. and hopefully more signatures.
b b(I hope I did miss use passion in anyway) |
| "b(I hope I did miss use passion in anyway)" huh???????? nm | namaSSte
May 30, 2003 9:20 AM | | |
| by in affect SPAMing you all. | brianc
May 30, 2003 9:25 AM | | just trying to get some more support for our cause.
Thanks to all the Passionites who have sign already and thos who will do so in the furure.
b |
| I know, j/k ya. Besides any post that gets BV in a ... | namaSSte
May 30, 2003 9:29 AM | | "copmromising" position is worth the effort! BV, at least it wasn';t one of those sloping nose saddles - ouch! |
| Doggy style - In a bed of flowers | Biking Viking
May 30, 2003 8:11 AM | | Signed it.
BV |
| Don't let SungDog see this, he'll get too excited! | brianc
May 30, 2003 8:36 AM | | thanks Geir.
b |
| Cliff-edge | Jive Tolkien
May 30, 2003 9:05 AM | | With or without velcro mitts. |
| thats just plain wrong! | namaSSte
May 30, 2003 9:23 AM | | I mean how can you mention velcro mitts and not even hint at a including a bozo wig and spurs???
what is this place coming to? |
| Some of the comments | pedalAZ
May 30, 2003 9:36 AM | | submitted on the petition included:
"this wilderness area is the state of New Mexico's property and belongs to the "people". As an American taxpayer in the state of New Mexico, I DEMAND that Otero Mesa be total wilderness and remain open to the "people" as wilderness!"
So, by "total wilderness," is this fellow advocating no bikes?
Also, with all the GW Bush-bashing comments included, do these folks expect that will get DOD types to be more sympathetic to the petition? I hope they are not that dumb. |
| Oh, they are <i>precisely</i> that dumb! | Paul B
May 30, 2003 9:58 AM | | You know how stupid the average American is? Half of 'em are dumber than that.
There's a lot of well-intentioned, heartfelt stuff on the Otero site. But there's a lot of unfiltered, unedited knuckleheadedness there as well.
p. |
| That's a GREAT quote! | JS5280
May 30, 2003 10:23 AM | | "You know how stupid the average American is? Half of 'em are dumber than that."
Is it original or did you hear it somewhere else? |
| Not mine | Paul B
May 30, 2003 10:26 AM | | But I can't remember where I heard it. Here's another one:
"Creativity is learning how to hide your sources." :-)
p. |
| Confusion.. | zen.
May 30, 2003 10:20 AM | | That specific comment seems to be confusing Otero Mesa (which is in Northern NM) with Otero Canyon near ABQ. Otero Canyon is open to bikes and always has been, and we certainly want to see it kept that way. I would personally fight against any efforts to make Otero Canyon a wilderness area, if it came to that, because mountain bikers have been the main leaders behind the current fight to leave it open in the first place.
There are hundreds of great comments out there, but it was inevitable that we would attract some people that don't have a clue.
Scott |
| I like to hammer it up the canyon! | Dr.Faustus
May 30, 2003 10:03 AM | | Oh yeah! Nothing like pushing deep and hard into the old Otero Canyon! But, I always wear my helmet. Safety first, ya know!
Dr.(a dirty mind is a terrible thing to waste!)F. |
| Like in BV's pic above? N.M. | SunDog
May 30, 2003 10:38 AM | | New Mexicans |
| There's been more editorials in the paper (NM) | krank
May 30, 2003 11:48 AM | | |
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