|  2004 XT Rear Derailleur (Rapid Rise?) | Jisch Nov 28, 2003 5:03 PM | | A couple of years ago Performance had some RapidRise XTR derailleurs on sale, I bought a couple and now I'm hooked on RapidRise (the rear shifter works backwards compared to a "normal" derailleur). It really is a better way to shift, and now both my left and right triggers work the same.
I need a new derailleur and the 2004 XTR RapidRise are $123! Yikes, no way I'm paying $123 for a derailleur! I see on Jenson's website they have two kinds of XTs for 2004, one is described as below:
"The new 760 Deore XT group adopts Shimano's "low normal" return spring design, yielding far smoother shifts to larger cogs under pedaling pressure."
Is this RapidRise? I'm hoping so, at $59 its at least reasonable. I checked Shimano's web site and its no help.
Thanks,
John |
|  Yes, it will work | Skatepark Nov 28, 2003 5:12 PM | | Besides, you can use a standard der. with the new shifters, it just works differently. I have tried it that way as well and found it pretty nice too.
Remember, the der only does what the shifter tells it to do.
-t |
|  But... | Jisch Nov 28, 2003 8:10 PM | | A RapidRise Derailleur causes the RapidFire shifter to work in reverse. I push out with my thumb to get to a harder gear on my right hand. So this derailleur is doing the opposite of what the shifter is telling it to do. So is this a RapidRise that works in reverse or a regular?
I definitely think the RapidRise works better than a standard der.
John |
|  Think of it this way... | Skatepark Nov 29, 2003 4:59 PM | | your shifter simply pulls or releases cable, it doesn't even talk to your deraileur. Your deraileur simply deals with slack or tight cable. You could take the new '04 XTR der and hook it up to an old school 7 speed and it will work fine, as long as the cogset matches the shifter. Conversely, you can mate a '97 XT der with the new XTR shifters and have a grand time of it. Your cogset and shifter need to speak the same language (7,8 or 9 speed) and your der simply goes where the shifter pushes or pulls it.
Now, a rapid ride goes to a larger cog on its own and a regular der goes to the smaller cog, irregardless of the shifter. So...
Find the shifters that work well for you (SRAM, XTR Rapid Fire, '04 XTR SLR, whatever) and mate it to a der that you like (rapid rise or regular) and go ride....and good luck.
-t |
|  Got it... | Jisch Nov 29, 2003 8:03 PM | | I understand the mechanics of how a derailleur works. I was just wondering if 2004 XT derailleur came in a RapidRise. I am now used to RapidRise (and it works better than the regular derailleur) so I'd like to stick with it, but at $123 for the XTR RapidRise, its too pricey... Sorry if I was confusing...
Thanks,
John |
|  RapidRise=Low Normal | Jisch Nov 29, 2003 8:05 PM | | Ok got it, someone just confirmed that "low normal" is the same thing as RapidRise. Apparently all 2004 Shimano Rear Derailleurs can be ordered either way.
Whew, glad that's cleared up.
John |
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