|  Orange Monkey Rebirth (16 new pics) | ncj01 Dec 24, 2003 4:26 PM | | So to make Padre and others happy, I've commited to try disc's for the first time ever. I test rode (around the shop)
a demo Fisher Cake with Avid discs and I've never felt anything with that level of power before. It bordered on dangerous.
At the same time, I've ridden my buddy's Titus with Avid discs and they didn't work quite as well as my avid V's. The LBS
claims it about the right break in or some such stuff.
So I spent the better part of the afternoon at the LBS, half helping, half getting out of the damn way. Bike finished right at
closing time for xmas. Test drive in the parking lot revealed the weakest assed brakes i've had since a Huffy BMX in elementary
school. They assure me its just a break in period and I need a solid 20+ miles on it and all the sudden it will just break in and
work like a champ. OK. we'll see. Start counting.....
Took a fresh batch of photo's this evening right before it got too dark to take them. I love how the color comes out in so many
different shades....the irony being that the bike is 1 solid color....but the shadow's and light make it look pretty wild/good.
head tube from front:
down tube, note the Avid Jackets, criscrossed down the downtube.
front disc, looks better than advertised performance at present. Oh, the wheels are American Classic hubs to Bonty Mustang
disc specific's, those are fresh off the press as well:
left side profile:
bike from rear:
bike from rear again:
front right:
drive train close, new long cage rear drlr. The short cage couldn't hold enough chain to deal with that freakin' huge XTR crankset:
drive train closer:
right rear profile:
right profile:
whole bike from front:
rear disc very close with paint chip. Actually the powerdercoating was a bit thick, and it cracked the paint when
we tightened the disc tabs down, so i just picked it off. Also, had to grind the paint off the inside of the disc tab area
becuase the powdercoat was thick enough to throw the caliper too far wheelward:
rear disc, not quite as close:
rear of frame near seattube junction, very close, one of my fav pic's:
And so the monkey lives on. The Dirt Drops have gone to New Hampshire (enjoy, chuck), and the Single Speed
wheels have found a new home in Portland, OR (enjoy Brie), and my SS cranks have found a home in Michigan (enjoy Zach).
This is the build that the bike will stay in until its no longer in my possession. I"m tired of spending Monkey Money so
freely. I swear I've got $3000 in this damned bike (various wheelsets, configurations, powdercoatings, and labor to
do each change. I'm done. This is it. |
|  While your pics may have not shown up....I will say... | Padre Dec 24, 2003 7:35 PM | | Congrats!
At my weight...my Avid pads break in about 3/4 of the way down the 1st descent of their first ride.... other people's take longer...My wife for example, needs about double what I do before hers are ready to go.
But after that glaze goes from the pad and embeds in the rotor...watch out!
All in all, I'd rather ride non-broken in discs than perfectly running V's....
You'll love it! |
|  re: Orange Monkey Rebirth (16 new pics) | Aesop Dec 24, 2003 9:03 PM | | pics didn't work NCJ |
|  picutres may need html code ? NM | SS Jerry Dec 25, 2003 1:36 AM | | NM |
|  Pic Server Update lost my photo's -- Here they are:::::::::::::: | ncj01 Dec 25, 2003 8:30 AM | | REPOST...due to Pic Server update/crash, I lost all my folders...I think this includes the earlier posting with subject Orange Monkey Porn....
So to make Padre and others happy, I've commited to try disc's for the first time ever. I test rode (around the shop)
a demo Fisher Cake with Avid discs and I've never felt anything with that level of power before. It bordered on dangerous.
At the same time, I've ridden my buddy's Titus with Avid discs and they didn't work quite as well as my avid V's. The LBS
claims it about the right break in or some such stuff.
So I spent the better part of the afternoon at the LBS, half helping, half getting out of the damn way. Bike finished right at
closing time for xmas. Test drive in the parking lot revealed the weakest assed brakes i've had since a Huffy BMX in elementary
school. They assure me its just a break in period and I need a solid 20+ miles on it and all the sudden it will just break in and
work like a champ. OK. we'll see. Start counting.....
Took a fresh batch of photo's this evening right before it got too dark to take them. I love how the color comes out in so many
different shades....the irony being that the bike is 1 solid color....but the shadow's and light make it look pretty wild/good.
head tube from front:
down tube, note the Avid Jackets, criscrossed down the downtube.
front disc, looks better than advertised performance at present. Oh, the wheels are American Classic hubs to Bonty Mustang
disc specific's, those are fresh off the press as well:
cockpit and fork from left:
left side profile:
bike from rear:
bike from rear again:
front right:
drive train close, new long cage rear drlr. The short cage couldn't hold enough chain to deal with that freakin' huge XTR crankset:
drive train closer:
right rear profile:
right profile:
whole bike from front:
rear disc very close with paint chip. Actually the powerdercoating was a bit thick, and it cracked the paint when
we tightened the disc tabs down, so i just picked it off. Also, had to grind the paint off the inside of the disc tab area
becuase the powdercoat was thick enough to throw the caliper too far wheelward:
rear disc, not quite as close:
rear of frame near seattube junction, very close, one of my fav pic's:
And so the monkey lives on. The Dirt Drops have gone to New Hampshire (enjoy, chuck), and the Single Speed
wheels have found a new home in Portland, OR (enjoy Brie), and my SS cranks have found a home in Michigan (enjoy Zach).
This is the build that the bike will stay in until its no longer in my possession. I"m tired of spending Monkey Money so
freely. I swear I've got $3000 in this damned bike (various wheelsets, configurations, powdercoatings, and labor to
do each change. I'm done. This is it. |
|  Good pics, now stay with this setup | SS Slave Dec 25, 2003 12:56 PM | | Hey, I was curious as to what tire you were running on your KM...
Thanks, SS Slave |
|  look like Nanos to me nm | Aesop Dec 25, 2003 3:25 PM | | nm |
|  trim those cables | bike_rider81 Dec 29, 2003 8:08 AM | | please trim those cables for your own safety. i sure would hate it if your cable got caught in your rotor and threw you ass over tits. i can't remember what avid recomends(30mm?) but it is much shorter than what you have. |
|  You ought to try the medium cage rear derailleur again... | næstep Dec 29, 2003 10:33 AM | | Especially with the longer stays of a 29"er bike you should notice much less chain slap using a GS derailleur.
Even with standard rings (Those are, right? I wasn't sure on account of the front derailleur) you should be able to get this to work.
I'm a huge fan of the orange poweder coat. Great looking build!
næstep |
|  re:You ought to try the medium cage rear derailleur again... | ncj01 Dec 29, 2003 10:38 AM | | that crankset is a mother of all rings. Big ring is 46T.
The thing that just occured to me though is that I am running a different rear cogset that I WAS running, and you maybe correct that I don't need the LONG cage.......but I think I'll put the 34t cogs back on there......for the 29er wheels, its really nice to have that 34t rear, keeps me from hitting the granny.....
As for the front brake cable, I really don't see cutting it shorter. To me, its pretty short already....
now if i can just get those disc's worn in so they work better than a used set of calipers on a 12 year old huffy...... |
|  Hmmm... that should work then... | næstep Dec 29, 2003 10:53 AM | | The difference between a standard 46T big ring/24T granny is the same as a compact 44T big ring/22T granny 22 teeth in either case.
Even with the 34T cassette, as long as you size the chain per the normal "big-big" method, the shorter cage should do you fine.
You won't have the use of the smaller half of your cassette while in the granny chainring, but that's no loss from a cross-chaining/useable gear standpoint.
The first thing I notice with shorter cages is their greater chain authority and decreased chainslap. If you still have it laying around why not give it another shot?
næstep |
|  he means the cable on the caliper after the bolt stop puller | appleSSeed Dec 29, 2003 5:31 PM | | it should only be long enough for a capper, not the actual cable, the left over cable after the bolt thing is secured should be very short. you know what I'm talking about? I think that's what he means....hmm is it called the anchor bolt? |
|  Yep, this should be trimmed nice and tidy... | fy'nætik (aka næstep) Jan 1, 2004 9:21 AM | | Avid sent out warnings that a lot of shops posted on their counters or doors. They're worried that too long a cable will get caught in the rotor spokes and cause an instant endo.
The few riders here who say this has happened to them report that the cable is cleanly sheered off by the rotor with barely a hiccup, but why chance it.
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|  I can dig it. Thnx. (nm) | ncj01 Jan 1, 2004 11:43 AM | | |
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