|   Hydro or Mech Disc Brakes? | Husar
Jul 16, 2002 6:30 PM | | I am sure this has been asked a 1,000,000 times but let's make it 1,00,001.
Regardless of brand, when would you take Hydro. over Mech. disc brakes or vise versa. Does one brake better than the other? Does one last longer that the other? Is it a maintance thing?
Any help would be much appreciated. |
| Can not pick one type <i>"regardless of brand"</i> | shiggy©®
Jul 16, 2002 8:51 PM | | There are good and bad brakes of each type.
My choice is Avid mechcanicals. Period. |
| Katie, bar the door | Spar¡cus
Jul 16, 2002 8:55 PM | | Plenty of loyalists in both camps. It boils down to personal preference. If you can, ride both types and draw your own conclusions. There are excellent systems available in either format.
One piece of advice in case you wind up with mechanical discs: run full length cable housing front and rear. I can't overstate the importance of this for power, brake feel/modulation and resistance to exterior contaminants.
Also, ignore anyone who claims one type is absolutely superior to the other. These people are obviously only familiar with one system and are are primarily interested in denying their own insecurities with regard to which type of brake they bought. Truth is, either format -- hydraulic or mechanical -- can deliver excellent performance and low maintenance.
--Spary |
| I <i><b><font size=5>know</font></i></b> mechanicals are best! | shiggy©®
Jul 16, 2002 9:18 PM | | ...for my bikes. There are no hydro discs that work with dropbar brake levers.
And that does not take away from the fact that the Avids are great brakes.
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| Very, very, very, very, interesting set up Shiggy. nm | blaxce
Jul 16, 2002 9:59 PM | | |
| LOL that's a lot of verys. | fonseca
Jul 16, 2002 10:16 PM | | I agree. It is very, VERY interesting. Especially those cages...very interesting indeed. In fact I think I can say with almost absolute certainty that shiggy's bike is completely unique.
Fons |
| Couple of more shots | shiggy©®
Jul 16, 2002 11:40 PM | | Matt Chester custom Ti singlespeed
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| Couple of more shots | shiggy©®
Jul 16, 2002 11:43 PM | |  |
| In this one Shiggy... | loonyone
Jul 21, 2002 6:17 AM | | It seems as though your seatpost is bent. |
| Couple of more shots | shiggy©®
Jul 16, 2002 11:46 PM | |  |
| I saw your thread about... | fonseca
Jul 17, 2002 1:32 PM | | ...The disc adapter in the SS forum...wild stuff. How do you like that housing? I'm guessing it's the nokian version? |
| It is the Nokon housing plus some of the IRD Metawire... | shiggy
Jul 17, 2002 2:01 PM | | ...same stuff. The Nokon set has nicer details with special end beads and a few other things. The IRD is just the same beads and no end pieces.
Honestly, I can not tell that it works any better than standard housing or Avid Full Metal Jackets (I am using it with the FMJ tubes.)
It is easier to make a sharper curve with the Nokon. |
| It is the Nokon housing plus some of the IRD Metawire... | fonseca
Jul 17, 2002 6:56 PM | | Does nokon make shifter and brake housing? How much did they run ya? I'm guessing $40+ a set. I am a sucker for pretty housing, I may have to give those a shot. |
| The only difference in the brake and shifter kits are... | shiggy©®
Jul 17, 2002 7:33 PM | | ...the cables and the lengths of the pre assembled segments. I bought mine at Sea Otter for $40 (event special price.)
They now have a US web site http://www.nokon.com |
| Couple of more shots | shiggy©®
Jul 16, 2002 11:54 PM | |  |
| hmmm | james_1
Jul 17, 2002 3:09 AM | |  |
| hydraulics for drop bars | aosty
Jul 17, 2002 9:31 AM | | Hope has a cable actuated master cylinder for use with drop bars. |
| hydraulics for drop bars | Stevo
Jul 31, 2002 4:39 PM | | I am very interested in the Hope cable actuated master cylinder. I e-mailed Hope and they said they do not make it anymore. Any ideas on where to get one?? |
| A Matt Chester with discs? | DJS
Jul 17, 2002 9:52 AM | | how did you get a rear disc? Did you have to slap some sense in that guy? last time I checked, he was still caught in 1990, ranting on about how stupid discs are...he actually went off on me for asking to have no brake bosses. "good lord, if I wanted a circa-1990 Ti frame Id go to ebay and look for 13 year old litespeed". he didnt think that was funny. |
| Paul Disc Unit | shiggy
Jul 17, 2002 11:13 AM | | 
Attaches to the axle of the Paul WORD hub. |
| 1990? Pffft! More like 1920 brah. | MattC
Jul 22, 2002 8:30 PM | | |
| <i b><font color="red">Dang, you guys!</i b></font> | shiggy
Jul 18, 2002 3:31 PM | | I can not even get a good flame war started!
I must have been too obvious.
Enjoy to brakes you like best. I do.
-shiggy NADS #69 |
| We just know............... | Mike T.
Jul 20, 2002 2:56 AM | | .....that when a fellah has such poor taste in bottle cage colors then there ain't no point in arguin' about his poor taste in brakes too eh! ;o)
Mike (silver SS cages rule) T. |
| .·.·.·.·.·.· Mike T succeeds where shiggy failed ·.·.·.·.·.·.·. | Spar¡cus
Jul 20, 2002 8:49 AM | | Okay, lissen up, ya dang flame war terrorist! Ya kin hammer my bud shiggy all ya wants with regard to his questionable taste when it comes to style, but don't step on my blue suede brakes!
YA HEAR ME???
Gittcher lousy Seven ridin' titanium butt down here and we'll have a ultra-hammer mega-descendin' epic-length no-holds-barred brake testin' EXTRAVAGANZA and see just who's got their pucker power where their sphincter is. Consider the gauntlet thrown down, me hardy!!!
shig & I await yer feeble response.
HA! Take that!
:^)
--Spary |
| Ya wants me............... | Mike T.
Jul 20, 2002 9:20 AM | | ....to fly all the way out there just to get earache from all you girlymen whinin' and whimperin' and makin' excuses like "Errr I gotta go home and shampoo my hamster" when I puts a liddle pressure on youse goin' up a liddle hill? Naww I might as well keep my grand in my pocket and stay in the mountains of SW Ont and do my Lance impersonation all alone.
Don't crap yer pants at my local terrain.
Mike (which way's up?) T. |
| That sounds like either
| Spar¡cus
Jul 20, 2002 9:57 AM | | .an admission that you don't have steep enough terrain where you live to do a real brake test or just a limp excuse to dodge my bonafide mano-y-mano challenge. Or both. ($1000? That ain't nuthin' to a wealthy, Seven ridin', Latin speakin' doctor like yourself.)
No matter. Point's been made.
Gotcha!
;^)
--Spary |
| I've been to Ontario | Brandon
Jul 24, 2002 1:03 PM | | When everyone asked what I thought of the place all I could say was...
Pretty flat.
I was missing the mountains within hours of arriving.
And I was in the "hilly" part of the Province. |
| Here you go... | Mountain Cycle Shawn
Aug 16, 2002 2:41 PM | | Dang Shiggy, give those drop bar bike pics a rest! You sure know how to fock up a good bike! |
| Thanks. I will probably go with Hydros. nm | Husar
Jul 16, 2002 10:50 PM | | |
| Good comment.................. | Mike T.
Jul 17, 2002 4:52 AM | | .......here Sparts - "ignore anyone who claims one type is absolutely superior to the other".
Yes those of us who are really "in the know" (from personal experience versus rumor & inuendo or financial obligations) know that the whole spectrum of quality disc brakes are this close regardless of their differences in features such as application medium, piston numbers or whatever.
The question should always be "What brake is best for MY purpose?" rather than which operating system or which brake is best. As you know I tested a brand of brake a few months ago which I considered too much brake for me. It had the ability to generate more power than I needed and I would gladly give up some of its power if that company came out with a Light version.
Since then I've gone to a brake which gives me all of the above - enough power, light weight plus it has extras such as total silence and zero maintenance. Eureka, I found it!
I'll be testing a dedicated downhill brake prolly in the next couple of weeks and even though I know this brake will be the lightest true DH brake on the market at present (if it is on the market at present) I also assume very strongly (a euphemism for "I know") that it will be waaaay too much brake for moi.
So yep the Newbies (to disc brakes in general or new to a particular brake) should do their homework and get whatever seems to suit their criteria.
Mike T. (mcm # 717) |
| Good comment.................. | Husar
Jul 17, 2002 12:58 PM | | The problem is that very few people can test a bike to for a few days to see what kind of brakes they like or work best for them. Riding around in the parking lot for 15 minutes doesn't give you enough time on the bike either. So the advice that experienced riders can offer is really good when it is given correctly. |
| Yep so................. | Mike T.
Jul 17, 2002 1:59 PM | | ....it's really important to know the source and to do that the correct questions have to be asked to qualify the source. However, unfortunately, most Newbies don't know enough to ask those right questions and often they get stuck with answers from the Inexperienced Opinionated and that's a bad combo.
Actually Product reviews here at mtbr was the reason francis founded the site as he was building a bike and couldn't get unbiased info. I guess if you throw out the highs and lows and tread carefully then Product Reviews is the best single source of info available. |
| A coaster brake blows them both away. JUST KIDDING!! (humor) | Cassius
Jul 16, 2002 10:21 PM | | Thanks for all the replies, guys. If I ever get a mountain bike, sounds like Avid mechanicals get the nod, from what I've read w/the posts. But I'd probably have to sell my cars first. Please no hate letters from hydro fans. Remember, I don't know a sprocket from a flywheel. |
| I use both | m00ch
Jul 18, 2002 7:12 PM | | Coaster and hydro. If my bike had brake bosses I would use those too. |
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