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Ceramic brake pads: Koolstop vs Avid Rim wrangler?(4 posts)

Ceramic brake pads: Koolstop vs Avid Rim wrangler?uber-stupid
Nov 12, 2002 1:04 AM
Looking for opinions. So far, I've run XTR ceramic pads on my commuter, and Koolstop on my Trek. The Koolstop seems to modulate a little better (though that could be the levers... both bikes have avid SD levers, but it's SD1.9 levers on the commuter vs SD7 levers on the Trek) and the Koolstops seem to be a bit grabbier at full squeeze, as well, but again, could be levers. Same front brake (Avid SD7), same rim (Mavic D521 ceramic) on both bikes, so the pads are mainly the deciding difference in performance right now, unless the levers make such a huge improvement. The design is similar, so I'm not sure that'd be it, especially since the XTRs are so much harder and the compound is so obviously different compared to the green Koolstops.

Anyway, back to the headline question... anyone tried the Green Rim Wranglers yet? Are they that much better than the Koolstops that it would warrant paying the price difference?
Whoops... nevermind. Just read the reviews and I found out...uber-stupid
Nov 12, 2002 1:17 AM
...that the rim wrangler pad inserts are actually made by Koolstop. If this is wrong, and there's actually a difference, please tell me... but I read that in 2 separate posts. Meaning same compound, different price. Makes the decision easier.

Sooooooooooooo...

Yeah. Consider the previous post a recommendation for the Koolstops over the XTR ceramic pads. The XTRs work, and work pretty well, in rain, etc, but the Koolstops just seem to modulate and work better on the ceramic. (Note: since the commuter gets ridden more often, the rims may be more gunked up, and less grabby than the rims on the Trek, which may account for some of the difference) So unless the levers really change that much (which, I can't see why they would, since it's the same design) the koolstop pads just... rule.

I'll swap to Koolstops on the commuter when the XTRs wear out to see if the rim wear thing is what caused the XTRs to not work as well, but I have hope that that's not the case.
Also try WTB's(nm)Bordershy
Nov 12, 2002 6:59 AM
Another Ceramic inspired mumbleuber-stupid
Nov 13, 2002 7:00 AM
Pulled mo front wheel day before yesterday to clena and true it. First time I've actually bothered to clean the ceramic rim since I put it on. I know for sure I've been riding it daily for 2 1/2 months, and a friend had it over the summer...

Odd thing is, when I cleaned it, I LOST braking power?!?!?

Anyone else have this problem?
 


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