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Avids, Minis, or Hayes? (6 posts)
|  Avids, Minis, or Hayes? | acm2002
Nov 18, 2002 3:03 PM | | I'm getting rid of my XT discs in lieu of something that rubs less, is lighter, and easier to adjust (part of less rub). I'm curious what everyone thinks would be the best choice. Take into account that fact that I like the hydraulic feel, although Avids are just fine for my purposes, this on a XC bike by the way. The XTs really like to pump up and start rubbing on a downhill, and then sometimes they just decide to rub for no reason when I take the bike out...I don't get it, and I'm sick of it.
Anyways, thanks. |
| re: Avids, Minis, or Hayes? | 64SpokenNips
Nov 18, 2002 3:29 PM | | Ive had two pair of minis and both were loud. Modulation on them were great as was the breaking power. I tried everything to stop them from squealling, but no luck. I just replaced them with Avid Mechs. I was quite suprized on the stopping power of them. They stop just as well as the minis did, not quite the same modulation or feel but for the money you cant beat them. Ive never used Hayes so I can't comment on them, but I hear there great. I still want to try them, but for now I'm happy with the Avids. Set up is a breeze and adjustments are easy and great. I would give the Avids a try. |
| Minis 185mm front, 165mm rear | gonzostrike
Nov 18, 2002 4:09 PM | | ...would be the best setup if you truly feel light weight is important. the 185mm front rotor will help with that fade you experience on long DH runs. I've used that setup on two bikes now. works great.
if you like the hydraulic feel, the Avids will be sub-par, but only on that perspective. they are highly adjustable for modulation, lever travel, etc., but they don't feel like hydros. reportedly, the Avids can match even the Hayes hydro for power if you set them up correctly. I can't vouch for that, because my 1st generation Avid mech discs were 160mm rotors and faded pretty drastically on long descents.
I run 8" Hayes hydraulics on my Bullit. Fantastic power, and great modulation if you adjust the lever reach to make it closer. If you leave the levers in their stock setting (furthest out), they are much more "on/off" and have less modulation.
I weigh 160 lbs and would suggest avoiding the Hayes for XC merely because I think the weight & power is overkill for XC. |
| have only used hayes hyd and deore | Duckman
Nov 18, 2002 4:54 PM | | mechs so far. just installed a set of avids on the new bike but thats it so far for those. gotta heal now..dammit. ok, enough whining..i've used plenty of good hydros from my superbike days using race systems like 2 frt floating kosman 13" castiron rotors with race only all mag 8 floating piston brembo calibers using comp ferodo pads, as well as all the oem stuff w/ good hayes or ferodo. the hayes are killer in my view..all things being equal. no maint so far short of finally replacing the oem pads after about 4 months of riding most everyday, and even then they had life in'm still. never ever fading to any degree, and thats goimg down long 2-3000'vert steep rocky pisgah descents, which is the only place i regularly smell my buds v's on his fuel 100 from overheating, and thats only halfway down. never have rubbed/dragged either. they do squel after getting wet, but is always short lived. if the avids are anywhere like the hayes as most say now, and much cheaper plus lighter ta boot..then thats ok by me. just some mo beta for thought is all.
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| using 203mm avids | morgan
Nov 19, 2002 5:45 PM | | And while they don't feel like a Hayes setup, they stop you just as well. Avids are nice cause if it rubs, you pull the pad back with the dial. Simple. That said it seems as though I am constantly messing with the pad position. Anyway I just like that their is no way I can puncture a line and walk home (which does happen on occasion with Hydros). I like them. |
| Hopes | Benno
Nov 22, 2002 6:35 AM | | I like the hopes a lot, my previous bike had hayes. Sometimes my brakes squeal a little, but cleaning the rotors with alcohol fixes it. This may be because I have newer hopes (3 months old). Modulation is good on hopes, and they weigh a little less, and I like the levers better. The hopes have a more gradual feel than hayes, which I like. Just my personal preference. I think the rubbing thing is kind of an issue with all hydro brakes - they are difficult to adjust! Both the hopes and the hayes have rubbed a little at one time or another. I had a problem where one piston moved and the other didn't, which caused some rubbing. I removed the pads, lubed the pistons with brake fluid, pushed the pistons back in their bores and put the pads back on, works much better. One advantage of hope, hayes, etc is that there are only two pistons to worry about rather than four... |
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