|   What do you think on the Tomac 207 for a race only bike? | smithers
Oct 3, 2001 9:10 AM | | Is the Tomac 207 a good race only bike? Or would you suggest somthing else? |
| 204? | BigRichDL
Oct 3, 2001 9:31 AM | | Its a very good race bike, BUT you have to build it up light, if you are smaller/lighter. The frame itself is super stiff, but heavy(13lbs with rear shock). I listed the frame witha rear shock because most companies list without.
I spoke to Rich Houseman(Snowshoe) at length about the bike. I have mine built up with a MOnster, Profiles, Gazzys and Intense tubes(all heavy) and it comes in at 50lbs. If you built up the bike with lighter Mavic rims, ran lighter tires, ran lighter cranks and a Boxxer you could shave 5 lbs easy. Hell, you could shave 3.5 off just with the fork change.
When my bike had the S7, the northshores, and the Maxxis tires(2.7's)...it was like 47.
The Tomac Team bikes have Dorados, northshores, IRC Kujo 2.35's or 2.65's sometimes Mudmads and build up at 44-45lbs.
Peace,
Rich
TEam XXL |
| I would shop around | Gunt
Oct 3, 2001 10:43 AM | | The Tomac comes with a Maitou Bazooka rear shock enuff said.
For a race only bike I would look at the Intense M1 or the Foes DHS
Go to the race and try out other peoples bikes and go from
there. For a race bike you want something strong and not a tank with
a Bottom bracket under 15 inches for a good center of gravity.
You want a bike that pedals very good off the start. Try out as
many DH rigs that you can. I went with a Turner DHR. |
| Gunt: How do you like about S8 as a race fork.... | Anza Kuitto
Oct 3, 2001 11:11 AM | | I´m looking for a new fork for next season...Boxxer, Shiver and S8 are strongest contenders at this time, any opinions?
Thanks! |
| I guess it depends where you race | Gunt
Oct 3, 2001 11:33 AM | | I had the Turner built up with the SS8 for Whitetail in PA,
But Whitetail closed. The S8 is like riding the fork down the
Mt. its tall and plush. It can take some big nasty drop like the
water fall at W/T I jumped/dropped it from the top and landed at
the bottom on the off chamber a good 20 feet down. I never did race
the S8 I sold it for a S7. Why the S7 because its lighter and it
pedals a lot better then a big hit fork where I race/ride. Now if you
have Big Mt's then maybe the S8 would be a good race fork. You
can go a lot faster without that sketchy feeling. Take bigger drops
with ease and the fork will save you in bad times. Big travel forks
have fork dive in the switch backs but make up time in the steep
rock gardens. The experts get it done with the boxxers. tuff call |
| I live in Finland.... :-) | Anza Kuitto
Oct 3, 2001 11:49 AM | | And there are no hills at all...but thanks anyway. one friend has S8 and it seems to be a good fork, and good match for my Straight 8 too...but Boxxers are little lighter and work very well too... |
| CORRECTION!!! and some info | BigRichDL
Oct 3, 2001 12:31 PM | | Re: Nuff said. Actually, the 2002 Tomac 204 comes with a Fox rear shock and it also did in 2001. Gunt is referring to the 2000 bike that I have, which has been fitted for a Fox rear shock. There are quite a few race bikes with BB's over 15". Actually the only bad thing I have heard said about the Turner is that with the BB so low you have to run short cranks in order to keep from banging pedals.
The Tomac BB is 15" which is quite a bit lower than some.
peace,
if you are anywhere close to 200 its a great choice. As I said earlier it can be built up to 44-45 lbs
If you are light then possibly go elsewhere I would say.
-Rich |
| I knew that was coming... | Ian F
Oct 3, 2001 7:10 PM | | ...and I was looking forward to it!
My opinion is that 15" IS high for a race-only bike. My M-1 has about a 13.5" bottom bracket. Yes, I clip pedals on rocks... often... but I knew that before I bought the bike and I've gotten used to it - it helps a lot to run clipless pedals.
Try as many bikes as you can an buy the one you like best. It's really a matter of what bike you get used to more so than the bike itself. They are many great bikes out there right now and the performance differences will not be noticed by most riders. It's really more a matter of "feel" and what feels best to you. When you feel good on a bike, you will ride that bike well. ...Most of the time - those other times will have you constantly searching for that "one little bit that will make it perfect."
Welcome to the show... you can never leave... :o) |
| Its all in the sag, DHR BB info | Gunt
Oct 4, 2001 5:55 AM | | DHR: Who ever told you that must not know how to
setup a race bike.
The DHR BB is 14.2 with 2.35 tires and its wise to run 165mm
cranks but you can use 170mm. As for banging rocks that can
happen on any bike.
Fir racing I set my sag at around 3/4 of an inch with a
650lbs spring. That keeps the BB off the ground and also
makes the bike pedal alot better. I would take a low center
of gravity anyday over pedal clearance. |
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