|  The best way to break a Trek 8300 XC Frame? | Atomic Oct 3, 2001 1:56 PM | | It's for a friend of mine, he got a '98 trek 8300 and would like to break it to get a new frame from trek, so Trek MUST not see that the frame was intentionally broken by any way. Thanx a lot. |
|  re: The best way to break a Trek 8300 XC Frame? | Bobeboy Oct 3, 2001 2:07 PM | | A.) That sounds like fraud
B.) Why would you want to break the frame when they are just going to give you another Trek
C.) Why? would you want another trek? Just buy a new bike! |
|  re: The best way to break a Trek 8300 XC Frame? | Gutty Oct 3, 2001 2:19 PM | | the only fare way is to risk personal injury too. Huck it off ya roof. |
|  try sticking it up yer arse fraudmeister dorkenschtein | ©2001 Oct 3, 2001 2:28 PM | | even if you break it and send it back, i'll tell trek to watch for it, as my father is CFO...THANKS!!! |
|  word!. nm | bcd Oct 3, 2001 2:54 PM | | |
|  verb!. nm | Acadian Oct 3, 2001 4:19 PM | | nm |
|  adjective | dhposer Oct 4, 2001 10:22 AM | | preposition |
|  Dangling Participle!---nmnm | nmnmnm Oct 4, 2001 3:12 PM | | nmnmnm |
|  easy | boy george Oct 3, 2001 2:55 PM | | 98 Trek 8000 series bikes broke rather easily in two places; either at the monostay along the rack bolts and under the chainstay. Check the '99 and after bikes, they've reenforced the bike at the chainstay and there's no longer mounts on the monostay. I've broken two '98 frames, my brother is still trying to break his '99. Just ride your frame HARD, it'll break for sure. BTW, as for the '99 and after 8000 frame, it's an excellent frame for trials/hucking. Obviously it's a bit outclassed in the freeride market by heavier bikes, but my brother's had his for 3 years now, and he's done some pretty crazy sh!t with it. 2 destroyed forks, 3 busted cranks, one bb and a couple seats broken and the frame's still perfect. |
|  re: The best way to break a Trek 8300 XC Frame? | Atomic Oct 3, 2001 3:19 PM | | IT IS NOT FRAUD since the frame is cracked at 2 places (top tube and near the bottom bracket0 and TREK DONT WANT TO REPLACE IT UNTIL IT IS REALLY BROKEN OR SERIOUSLY BENT, so i dont think it is fraud. My friend just dont want it to break while riding, cuz this would hurt him! Just think about it... If the frame was intact, i would not do it! Thanx for the 2 that answered my! |
|  Bull, yes that is fraud... | Inclag Oct 3, 2001 3:46 PM | | ...You've got to be kidding me that Trek will not replace the frame even though it has two cracks on it. Complete bullsh!t! |
|  You're a complete d!ck | rubrduk Oct 3, 2001 5:18 PM | | and apparently you don't know you're butt from a hole in the ground,...Schwinn pulled the same crap on me with my 98' S-Carbon i used to have. It had 6 cracks in it and their excuse was that it is the gellcoat cracking and not the actual carbon,...which was kinda funny when i sent it back to them a month later in two pieces, so then they tried to replace it with a 99' S-40,...the f@g aluminum frame version of the bike, so they sent me an S-10 homegrown after my lawyer called them! BTW,...Trek was asked to recall so many of their carbon frames, but they said they would replace them as they were broken because "the rider was not in direct risk". So you can shove it untill you can reply with some kind of educated answer and not some hillbilly bullcrap answer. What do think these bike co. are doing?!...running a friggin' charity? They send out bikes and parts all the time are either made for sub 140 females only or are just poor designs,...but somebody has to pay for the mistake. i've worked a too many bike shops and have seen how they deal with THEIR screw-ups by passing the $1000 error onto a kid that has to bust his tail at teh local wal-mart to pay for his ride.
My advise is to call trek and demand they replace the frame or you will be calling your lawyer the frame is cracked and they cannot tell you that it must be broken for it be warrantied, the integrity of the frame has already been comprimised by their poor design,...if not then find where the frames commonly break and then "stress" it plenty without leaving marks
Ride On |
|  Calm down man... | Inclag Oct 3, 2001 5:58 PM | | ...Sorry if I blew some kind of fuse with you, but I've never heard of a company that would deny replacing a frame even though it was broken. I'm actually really surprised to hear that it happens.
I'm not hear to make any enimies, but when Atomic explained that he wanted to destroy a frame to get a replacement and then after several posts told a story that sounded similar to yours, it sounded very suspicious.
OK, it wasn't right for me to assume that he was trying to fraud Trek, but at least be able to see where I'm coming from here. Like you pointed out, he should contact Trek and demand to have it replaced, but going about it in the way described isn't the right way.
Lastly, Atomic if I did offend you, sorry bro
Inclag |
|  Ride On | rubrduk Oct 4, 2001 2:28 AM | | back at ya with the apologies,...i've was a taken back by everyone's "fraud" cry and decided to go for the throat, sorry bro. I guess anymore i don't see it as a dishonest thing(alot of cases - but not all) for a person to use a warranty card when they bought a frame second hand, or when in this case the guy is trying to figure how to finish off a frame in a safe manner before his friend ends up in the hospital from a poor design. I've been through the "big bike co. 2-step" too many times just for them to end up blaming their shoddiness on anyone else other than themselves! It just bugs me,...very few companies stand behind their products,...and the worst ones are the big names like GT, Schwinn, Trek, Cannondale, etc... and i've seen many of these flagrant denials first hand after working at a couple bikes shops, but at the same time if you are friends with the Rep. then you can get you frame warrantied after your girlfriend backs over your bike in her SUV (yes,...i saw this happen, and it was Schwinn!!) I guess that's why i have a Planet X,...small companies stand behind their products and don't pull bs excuses like a 190lb rider exceded the weight limit of the rear shock (99' FSR Sport as a matter of fact!) therefore they refused to warranty the shock that had a bent shaft. Oh well,...enough ranting from me |
|  Simple solution. | Dougal Oct 4, 2001 1:01 AM | | Trot down to a University or large manufacturer and call on a mechanical engineer.
Get his opinion, his name and phone number then call Trek from your local bike shop.
Lawyers might be good for putting the sh*ts up people but they seldom understand the situation.
Dougal.8m.com |
|  ship it UPS (nm) | Jm Oct 3, 2001 3:48 PM | | nm |
|  hehehehe.....that'll do it. | Gutty Oct 3, 2001 6:24 PM | | nm |
|  re: Upgrade Your Trek Anyway | dhposer Oct 4, 2001 10:27 AM | | If you are that happy with your trek. Huffy and cannondale make great upgrade kits for any trek |
|  re: The best way to break a Trek 8300 XC Frame? | Atomic Oct 5, 2001 3:20 PM | | that,s okay bro. Peace and ride. |
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