|   Bike Porn..My New Dorado.... | pezzo33
Oct 4, 2001 2:11 PM | | Here it is, my new Dorado, all ready for this weekends P-Kill race. So far initial impressions are great, but it has not seen big use yet. It is supersmooth out of the box with NO stiction at all. Will post more after the race this weekend.
and as a couple small note on it for anyone looking at buying one. The integrated stem IS included, as are disc brake adapters for both hayes and Shimano 8" (two seperate).
In comparision to my old Boxxer, the front end height is about four inches lower now, and the fork was 3/4 of a pound lighter on a digital scale.
Watch more more pictures tonight from Interbike, including the Giant, Chausson's Gemeni, King 20mm hub, and more.
enjoy!
Pezzo33
PS, and on a side note too, Easton Has some new DH carbon bars. And for all of you that worry about the strength of Carbon, after something like 50,000 cycles (the equivelent to 5 years use every day for four-six hours), the handlbar broke the machine...not bad huh, and only 220 grams. |
| How much travel? | FooMan
Oct 4, 2001 2:27 PM | | 4"'s lower than your boxxer? Damn, that's gotta mess with your geometry in a serious way.. That was a 7" boxxer? Almost sounds like it would be shorter than a single crown Z1.
What's the total weight? 6 pounds? Carbon uppers right? Stiffness?
Let us know how it goes! |
| How much travel? | pezzo33
Oct 4, 2001 7:56 PM | | actually, after measuring ad not guessing, it is 2.75 inches lower...oh well..
so far it is stiff, between the hex axle and the integrated stem clap (and my new front wheel too I am sure), I cannot feel it flexing in the limited riding I have done. Basically, I went hard into turns in berms, and it tracked straight trhough, where as with my boxxer I could feel the wheel wave and flex..
height is only a little higher than my tazer with a 5" black on it, so it is a better switch betweent he two bikes without much difference in ther iding position..
weighs in at like 6 1/2 pounds with the brake adapter, stem and top clamp..
Pezzo33 |
| Weight | Dougal
Oct 4, 2001 3:21 PM | | I thought the boxxers were about 6.5lb and the Doroda claimed at 7lb. What's the actual weight of each?
Try and break it, tell us if you do.
Dougal.8m.com |
| The Dorado is about 6.5lbs | Acadian
Oct 4, 2001 3:29 PM | | well the one at my bike shop is! |
| Are you sure...Manitou told me 8 lbs. with the stem... | go-ride.com
Oct 5, 2001 5:02 PM | | and the one at the show felt even heavier than that. In all honesty I was hoping that the fork would have impressed me more. I am still ordering a few, but it was not nearly as smooth as a Monster and IMO not much lighter, plus obviously much more flexy.
I will have to reserve judgement untill after I have tested one on a shop bike, but at this momment I think it is just average. Plus the ones at the Dirt Demo were leaking oil badly. I don't know if this was just oil lubricating the legs or if the damping cartridge had blown.
Again, I am still hoping that the fork will prove to be a winner, but so far it is not living up to the initial hype.
The new Avalanche fork on the other hand has been ablsolutely sweet. It has that super sweet Monster T plushness, yet the damping keeps the fork from diving to the bottom of its travel under hard braking. Of course there is a steep price to pay, but once you have seen the guts of this fork you realize you are getting your moneys worth. Its parts are straight out of a works MX fork that has been miniturized. Very impressive. Plus it weighs in about 9 lbs. which is only 1 lbs. heavier than the Dorado at the show.
go-ride.com |
| according to my digital scale, yes...show claimed 7 pounds.. | pezzo33
Oct 5, 2001 7:23 PM | | the one manitou had at the show was a claimed 7 pounds, not eight, and mine weighed 6.25 after being cut on a digital scale..I was impressed.
so far I can not give any long term facts about it, but it is good, where I could flex flex my boxxer pushing it trhough berms and corners, I do not feel that in this. I do not have any super extended time ont he shiver so I can not comment onthat, but it feels al ot lighter on the front end then the shiver I have ridden.
as for not being plush, Iguess yu may have a different opinion or have ridden a more broken in or beaten fork. mine felt better out of the box then my facotry tuned boxxer. absolutely NO stiction at the beginning of the travel, and I could not bottom it out no matter what I did, even jumping up and down on it..
the sitffness is a combo of the hex axle, the integrated stem/clamp, and my new wheel, but it is not all the wheel, Iw oudl attirbute it to the fork more..
I am racing it this weekend, and we will see. Scott, email me if you got an questions of concerns. If need be, I can take it of the bike and take a picture of it on a dig scale fo you if you want.. but so far, I have been impressed.
as for the avalanche, yeah, it is great, but the cost is up there, and the dorado is on the much lower side for Pro level Dh forks, less at suggested retail than the boxxer and shiver I believe (or the same).
any more questions, let me know, and I will post more info on the fork monday...
pezzo33 |
| Weight | pezzo33
Oct 4, 2001 7:47 PM | | my 2001 Boxxer weighed in at just under7 pounds, including the disc brake adapter, upper crown, and stem (easton 50mm magnesium, about 160 grams)
The dorado with disc brake adapter, integrated stem/clamp weighed in at just under 6 1/4 pounds after cutting to length.
I as surprised it was as light as it was...and feels even lighter on the bike.. |
| wow, that's light......... | bcd
Oct 5, 2001 5:36 AM | | gram scale or other? |
| wow, that's light......... | pezzo33
Oct 5, 2001 6:17 AM | | digital gram scale, I was much surprised (but happy) when I put it on there. And The scale is definitely accurate.
Pezzo33
PS, did you see the new Easton DH carbon bar? 220 grams, and it broke their testing machine it is so strong. They could not damage it! Thought oyu might be interested in that... |
| re: Bike Porn..My New Dorado.... | CHewy
Oct 4, 2001 3:25 PM | | that is a super nice looking bike...
just thought i would give my opinion, enjoy plattekill, wish i could be there but am stuch at school.
CHewy |
| Pkill This Weekend | HOMAN
Oct 4, 2001 3:43 PM | | That is going to be sweet for Pkill. Do you ride there often? Have you heard anything about the course this weekend? Cu. |
| Pkill This Weekend | pezzo33
Oct 4, 2001 7:48 PM | | I go to P-Kill once of twice a month, not a ton, but all the races and a little bit more.
do not know a ton about the course, but it is supposed to be new, so will see on Saturday I guess.
see you there
Pezzo33 |
| BadA$$! | KrazyKona
Oct 4, 2001 4:33 PM | | Nice bike. I've heard that there are some flexing issues with the Dorados. Is this true? Super Sweet setup by the way!
Ride on |
| BadA$$! | pezzo33
Oct 4, 2001 7:51 PM | | so far from what I can see and the limited riding it has seen, flex is not an issue, less the the Xvert carbon I had, and seemingly less then the Boxxer. It seems as if the Hex axle is a lot more than hype, and does its job. I pushed the bike hard through a corner, and (matched with my new front wheel), it did not wave at all, something I could do with the boxxer..the superstiff and strong integrated stem clamp helps too I am sure.
lata
Pezzo33
PS, thanks for the compliments |
| Watch those seals! | Jm
Oct 4, 2001 5:57 PM | | the blew out at the dirt demo spilling oil all over the lower portion of the fork(and near the disc!). |
| re: Bike Porn..My New Dorado.... | SCARY
Oct 4, 2001 6:20 PM | | 4 inches shorter than the Boxxer ?I sn't that a huge amount ?Wow I have one on order and that seems like too big of a difference. |
| re: Bike Porn..My New Dorado.... | pezzo33
Oct 4, 2001 7:53 PM | | actually, 4" was a little bit of an exageration based on a guess. actual difference is about 2.75", and to tell you the truth, I could not be happier. I would suggest the fork, it is easier to stear now, and has more standover near the headtube
Pezzo33 |
| BIB | spag52
Oct 4, 2001 7:14 PM | | is that Bib on your downtube? michelin kicks ass |
| HE!! yeah it is BiB... | pezzo33
Oct 4, 2001 7:52 PM | | you know it, Michelin Rocks. and now for some trivia. Whoever can answer first (correctly of course) I will mail some Michelin Swag too..nothing big, but it is FREE!
What Is Bib's real full name?
I await your answers..
Pezzo33 |
| Bibendum | Ronstitute
Oct 4, 2001 8:36 PM | | i think that right |
| close, very close, almost.... | pezzo33
Oct 4, 2001 9:24 PM | | but not quite, that is only part of his name... |
| me thinks | Regder
Oct 4, 2001 8:51 PM | | bibendum, is dat correct sire? |
| doh | Regder
Oct 4, 2001 9:06 PM | | how about a second place prize?
and I have a question regarding a prototype Michelin tire from either this year or last year. Looks the same as the Hot S except has a slightly darker red compound. Prototype Comp24 or something else? |
| although... | pezzo33
Oct 4, 2001 9:29 PM | | although I cannot tell exactly from that picture what teh tire is, it is most likely the new 2.5" Hot S. Yup, you heard that right, the size and tread of the COMP 24 DH, but with the harder and tackier rubber (and longer lasting) of the Hot S with a kevlar beed, lighter sidewall, and 800 gram weight. Look for it in stores in December..
hope this helps
Pezzo33 |
| oooh ooooh | Regder
Oct 4, 2001 9:43 PM | | "Nunc est bibendum", translated "it's time to drink"
how's that, taken direct from Michelin's site. For extra points the history of bib, http://www.michelin.fr/fr/fre/bibendum/p1.htm.
Oh and thanks for the tire info, will definitely pick one of those up when they come out |
| oooh ooooh | pezzo33
Oct 4, 2001 9:52 PM | | It is actually SIR bibendum though, he was knighted in the 70's in England (and no, I am not kidding onthis one).
but for style points and doind research, you win...email me your address and I will send soem stuff out
thanks
Pezzo33 |
| woohoo | Regder
Oct 4, 2001 10:09 PM | | you don't have a valid e-mail there (nm@nm.com), just toss me an e-mail at regder1@hotpop.com and I'll send over my mailing address.
Thanks for whatever you are sending me, I don't care as long as it's free :)~ |
| woohoo | pezzo33
Oct 5, 2001 6:18 AM | | darn, what happened to my email...
pezzo33@hotmail.com
thanks
Barry |
| almost...close..... | pezzo33
Oct 4, 2001 9:25 PM | | but no cigar...that is only part of his name...not the whole thing... |
| me thinks | Regder
Oct 4, 2001 11:24 PM | | bibendum, is dat correct sire? |
| Mine is gonna be here today....... | Dusty
Oct 5, 2001 4:11 AM | | I'll have mine in time for P-kill too. I am so amped. I can't wait. the frok is gonna be sick!
Nate |
| Mine is gonna be here today....... | Dusty
Oct 5, 2001 4:12 AM | | I'll have mine in time for P-kill too. I am so amped. I can't wait. That fork is gonna be sick!
Nate |
| re: Bike Porn..My New Dorado.... | Mr Tomac
Oct 6, 2001 6:04 AM | | PezZo, Nice Fork! I want one but the only thing stopping me is the price(here in Aus they are quite pricy). There is a few things i am unsure of -
Cost: How much did it cost you personally (in $US) ?
Front end: could you do us a favor and measure the distance from youre front axel to the bottom of you're headset?? please.
Handlebar: What handlebar are you running?? is it a carbon monkeybar?? Isn't that an XC bar?? (I need a new bar to fit(i have oversize azonics))
Thankyou in advance. |
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