|   Opinions on a DH fork | Audo
Nov 5, 2001 11:15 AM | | This is the deal. I have a Turner DH and I have a Stratos SS8. I like the fork the problem is that the fork is 3 inchs longer and like 2 LBs heavier then any other fork that size.. what would you guy say would be the ideal fork with my bike. I would just like any feed back that you have. |
| I want to upgrade soon, and I see basically 2 choices | Jm
Nov 5, 2001 11:52 AM | | either a Shiver, or a stratos S7. The stratos has price working for it and is supposed to be a very smooth ride, on the negative side all this talk about "twisting in crashes" is scaring me off, I don't have a torque wrench, and I have never heard of crushing stanchions or overtorquing bolts(creating missalignments) in other forks, I think the fork should be designed with sufficiantly thick stanchions to not have to worry about this, still the S7 is a contender. The Shiver on the other hand is a big-honkin-fork, probably like your SS8, but with slightly less travel, I don't know how it would compare length-wise, but I want the shiver due to the travel, and the fact that it is just about as "big" as a monster T, but about a pound less and with a little more travel. I am not considering the boxxers and super-Ts much because I want a little more damper sophistication and more travel than the boxxer, and a sturdier fork than the Super-T; I won't completely rule them out, but I would like a significantly slacker head angle and 7+" in the front.
Otherwise, the ideal fork for YOUR bike for RACING might be a boxxer or Dorado, I just spewed out the info about the Shiver and S7 because that is what I am going to consider for my next fork, although I don't want a "super-fork" either, like a SS8 or Risse Champ, although the shiver is pretty darn close. |
| Torque wrenches... | Toshi
Nov 5, 2001 3:22 PM | | ... are cheap. ~$20 at Sears, throw in a couple of more bucks to get some metric hex drivers and then you're set. |
| damper sophistication? | boy george
Nov 5, 2001 7:29 PM | | Are you serious?
What's so special about the '02 Shiver? Because no way was my '01 Shiver as sophisticated as my old Boxxer when it came to adjusting the compression damping.
'Course that being said the Shiver is easy to fine tune, it's just that other than oil level, there's not much you can easily do to adjust the high speed compression . |
| not when it comes to ajusting | Jm
Nov 5, 2001 8:26 PM | | Its a LOT less sophisticated in that respect-tuning(not a bad thing) but the new marzocchi dampers have the new HSCV damper in them, as well as better rebound ajustment, more travel. The HSCV sort of acts like a position sensitive damper at the bottom of the travel(my boxxer kind of does the same too). I have never wanted to really ajust the high speed compression of the boxxer by the "internal nut", the low speed yes, but the high speed would be changed when I went with another weight of oil automatically, so I used oil weight to change it(easier than taking the compression piston out, which I have done though).
Its still a great fork, but I have beat the hell out of mine, all sorts of scratches and the seals are starting to leak again(I got more than 1.5 yrs out of them though). If it was in better condition I really would upgrade it to 7", but its at the point where I think the scratches in the stanchions are wearing the seals somewhat and the situation is not going to ever get better, spring compaction will probably be an issue soon as well, and new stanchions+new bushings+new seals+upgrade travel would be rediculously expensive. So I may as well sieze the opportunity and try something different. As well as my rockshox I have a bomber too, and I have always liked it, and I doubt I would regret getting a shiver, and while I like my friends Monster T that I ride from time to time, half an inch more travel, at a pound less, and just as "big"(from those huge upper tubes) sounds appealing. |
| what about the Foes wet one xl? | narlus
Nov 6, 2001 10:12 AM | | haven't seen anyone not on a Foes using one, and know jack-all about 'em, but the web site sure is pretty! |
| 1500 retail | Jm
Nov 6, 2001 11:01 AM | | a bit out of my expense account, as well as the curnutt version is 1700, it kinda bugs me that the regular one is lacking it. The curnutt thing is nice, but there are forks that have had position sensitive damping for some time now, its stuff that keeps forks from bottoming, Boxxers, Avalanches, marozcchi(hscv), I am not sure that the regular foes is anything "special" compared to the competition. BTW, dealer cost for it is 1094, so it aint cheap by any standards, dealer price for a shiver is 830. |
| Ran into a guy on the Kamloops ski hill (Sun Peaks).... | CraigH
Nov 6, 2001 11:37 AM | | who was running one on the front of his Bullit. He didn't have anything bad to say about it, if that means anything. |
| re: Opinions on a DH fork | AL
Nov 5, 2001 6:01 PM | | I had a S7 but had a lot of leaking problems with it. I sent it in several times for new seals and I finally gave up. The service was great at Stratos but I was getting tired of shipping it out from Hawaii. I got a good deal on a 01' Shiver and have been happy ever since. I noticed that the S7 made the front end of my Turner a little bit too high. The Shiver on the other hand is just the right height for me. |
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