|   Still seeking perfect shifters....not SRAM or Shimano! | Jaybo
Jan 8, 2004 8:05 PM | | I have been seeking the perfect shifters since I sold my 8-speed XT shifters (XTR were even nicer). I have had 3 different shiftes this year: SRAM 9.0 shorties and X.9 and XT 9.
I didn't like the gripshift because I could not reach my brake levers well or had to deal with having my hand on the shifters. They do shift well though. However, they do feel a bit cheesy.
The X.9 is pretty nice but the ergonomics kinda suck. The shifting is nice. I'm still adjusting to them.
The XT shifts well, but gets really indistinct, especially in mucky weather. The absolute king of ergonomics. I just wish the shifts were more positive.
I'm still seeking the best shifters. If I thought I could keep a fresh supply of parts, I would go back to 8 speed XT shifters. It rocks.
Your thoughts?
Jaybo |
| More gripshift with the Rohloff? | Jaybo
Jan 8, 2004 8:35 PM | | I've thought about trying the Rohloff; however, it is very expensive. You sounds like you are totally sold. How does it hold up on the muck?
Jaybo |
| More gripshift with the Rohloff? Problem solved!! | VernDog
Jan 9, 2004 7:12 AM | | Yup, that is the way to go, say good bye to over 14 shifting related problems, www.rohloffusa.com |
| Yes, still the downsides of twist shifting... | f'nætik (aka næstep)
Jan 9, 2004 11:23 AM | | In some ways I still perfer the Rapid Fire shifter over twisting, but triggers do not lend well to being able to "grab a handful" and literally shift into any gear I want in less than 1/2 second, pedaling or not. So even if a Rohloff trigger were avaliable, I would still probably put up with the simulantous braking/shifting inconvenience of a twist shifter in order to mainatin the ability shift super-quick.
Once the trails get muddy from rain, I stick my Hollowpoint out of the way in a corner and primarily ride my Speedhub-equipped hardtail Buzz Bomb. It holds up beautifully, cleans off quickly, and with no derailleurs, tensioners, or offset chainlines, it's a first class mud machine. |
| Hmmm....interesting. | Jaybo
Jan 10, 2004 6:34 PM | | I have been thinking about one of those single speed Curtlo frames; however, a Rohloff equipped machine might be very cool. The system is like $600 or something isn't it? Ouch! The technology is very cool.
What do you think Rohloff will do next? Try to lighten it up?
Jaybo |
| Lighter would be good, but I don't think they'll shave much... | f'nætik (aka næstep)
Jan 11, 2004 8:50 AM | | They've recently shaved a few grams with the removal of a pair of internal seals, but that doesn't really count for much.
Since inception they've been mainly adding weight: disc brake hub caps, external shifting boxes, 'Speedbone' disc brake adapters. All for the better, of course, but you'll still see a 1 to 1.5 pound weight penalty over a typical LX/XT mix.
That extra pound or so buys you a bomb-proof zero-dish rear wheel and a bullet proof, long lasting sealed shifting system though, so to me the tradeoff is a fair one.
The hubs have been going from $650 to $800 on ebay recently. Not sure what "realistic" retail pricing is, but MSRP is in the $1000 range. |
| Speedhubs keep getting better | Adman
Jan 9, 2004 10:30 AM | | I asked Thomas @ Rohloff USA this week if there was anything 'new & improved' coming for Speedhubbers in the near future.
There's a new axle design in the units coming into the states now that is supposed to improve the 7-8 upshift delay. Unfortunately since it's more or less at the hub's 'core' there's no retrofit available the rest of us. I say unfortunately for some, since I'm pretty used to it & find it easy to fixate on that one thing when everything else just works very reliably. Can't wait to get my Epic all 'fourteened' out very soon!
-Adam |
| Just go SS and you won't have to think about it any more | Fist of Ham
Jan 8, 2004 8:31 PM | | Sorry, could not resist. In all seriousness, have you considered one of these? |
| "X.9 is pretty nice but the ergonomics kinda suck." Rotate them | Tscheezy
Jan 8, 2004 11:10 PM | | down more than you would RF.
tscheezy |
| I'll second that-the all thunbs operation is better than 8sp rf | iceaxe
Jan 11, 2004 9:56 PM | | |
| Thumbies? | GirchyGirchy
Jan 9, 2004 4:55 AM | | There's a company (help me out here, everybody) who makes new thumb shifters. They look pretty nice, you could try those. |
| Paul's thumbies? | logbiter
Jan 9, 2004 6:03 AM | | http://www.paulcomp.com/frmbk.html |
| None... | Homebrew
Jan 9, 2004 1:31 PM | | Singlespeed is like total forkin' Anarchy, maaan! |
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