|   non-bike related web help | daneil
Nov 2, 2001 12:51 PM | | Ok, guys. my boss just gave me the go ahead on re-designing the new website. I'm looking for some sites that offer free nav bar creators and gif creators cause he gave me the go ahead, not the budget. any help would be great. oh hey, i just realized that this is bike related. the less time i spend at work the more time i have to ride my new titanium framed hardtail. so please, for my poor underused bikes sake, help. |
| What tools are you using now? | shiggy
Nov 2, 2001 1:16 PM | | What programs do you have?
Mac or Windows? |
| What tools are you using now? | daneil
Nov 2, 2001 1:24 PM | | Windows NT, Dreamweaver 4, and i'm going to try and get him to sign off a copy of photoshop pro, but i won't get it if it won't help. |
| What tools are you using now? | laffeaux
Nov 2, 2001 3:29 PM | | How much do you know about HTML and graphics creation?
Dreamweaver is good if you don't know html. If you do know it get Homesite. You can download it for a free 60 day trial (full version) at allaire.com.
I use MS PhotoDraw for creating text basd graphics. It's okay. I've not used PhotoShop as it's pricey, and I avoid "real" graphics editing as much as possbile. Either (and others) will work. |
| For web work... | shiggy
Nov 2, 2001 3:42 PM | | ...I would suggest Fireworks over Photoshop. It works together with Dreamweaver much better than PS. You can download a fully functional 30-day trial from the Macromedia web site. |
| or for MY web work........ | heff®
Nov 2, 2001 4:27 PM | | ....I use ShiggySoft Image Generator. The only drawback I've seen to it is that when you imput your idea into the system, it can take several months for the nav bar to generate.
*grin*
heff® |
| Oh Yeah... | shiggy
Nov 2, 2001 5:41 PM | | ...I did say I would make some icons for the NADS site.
...They are in the mail! I sent them through the DC post office! ;^) |
| ooooooh.......ok. | heff®
Nov 3, 2001 7:16 PM | | Just did a check of UPS to see where the heck my fork lowers were, in relation to Manitou getting them for warranty. They called me last night, 4pm Eastern, to tell me they hadn't gotten them yet. Checked the tracking number, they got there THURSDAY, and were refused three times in the same day. Shipped back, unopened. I'll have them back here Tuesday, Monday maybe, with no more done than a shipping charge to pay. Nice, huh? Think my nice guy side is gonna wear thin on THIS one.
heff® |
| photoshop tryout | cousin sven
Nov 2, 2001 3:35 PM | | http://www.adobe.com/products/tryadobe/main.html#photoshop
you can download it and try it out w/o purchase. disclaimer: i have never used the tryout version so it may be crippled.
however, i do use photoshop exclusively for image editing and creation. imageready is helpful as well for making your images a little more web friendly.\
good luck. |
| photoshop tryout disables... | shiggy
Nov 2, 2001 3:44 PM | | ...The save, print and copy functions so you can not do any real work with it. |
| just a few points | jared
Nov 2, 2001 8:12 PM | | First of all, get Photoshop. It's pricey, but you will absolutely need it if you are going to maintain a site.
Second, do not use any type of template. In addition to the satisfaction of creating your own site from scratch, if you build the toolbars on your own, you will know how to fix and change them.
Dreamweaver is good stuff, although I prefer Golive.
And spend some time reading all the manuals and learning how to do it. |
| Why stay away from FrontPage? | Philber
Nov 3, 2001 6:18 AM | | I was going to use it to design a site for my work. It looks straightforward enough. I won't be doing anything complicated - just a "who we are what we are" kind of site. I understand HTML although I wouldn't say I'm conversant in it. |
| FrontPage is a "dirty" program... | shiggy©®
Nov 3, 2001 10:28 AM | | ...It adds a lot of unnecessary code and it also uses proprietary functions that work only if you have your site on a server with FrontPage extensions. |
| For a small site, it's alright, BUT....... | heff®
Nov 3, 2001 7:22 PM | | ....things like the hit counter, "search this site" function, message boards, and most other advanced functions will only work on a FrontPage based server. I used to use it, just 'cause I had it.....granted, I found a GREAT free FrontPage based server, and still have my site on it, but I was able to switch to a better HTML program, and use StarOffice for base coding, and cut my website space usage by an unbelievable amount. FrontPage drops about 10 directories into your web server that are strictly theme info, CGI scripting, and other bloated code that doesn't need to be there.
If you're gonna have a small site, with, say, one or two pages, don't bother with it. Do it the old fashioned way, it's not all that hard. There's several good HTML books out there that teach you the basics of how to build all sorts of pages, in all sorts of formats, without alot of work.
If you're gonna go bigger, go with one of the Adobe programs, or the ones Shiggy mentioned, they're alot cleaner, less hassle, and easier to use, really.
That said, I have 1o pages on my site, and just hard-coded them.....no WYSIWYG editors, just typed it in.
heff® |
| thanks a lot guys... | daneil
Nov 4, 2001 11:15 AM | | Yeah, i would just do it by code, but i mapped it out on Fri. and i'm looking at like 25-30 pages easy. Thanks guys for all your help. I'll post a link when it's done, has nothing to do with mountain bikes, it's actually for a business school, but hey what the hell. Alright, thanks again.
-daneil |
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