|   Stans No Tube System | BigJay
Mar 11, 2002 5:19 PM | | I spoke with Stan today and of course he has his Biases, but I think if it works its a great idea.
Has anyone tried his sealant for a regular tire - tubeless conversion? Anyone tried his new rim strips? I would like to try them but I would like to get some input first from someone who has tried them. please post here for all to see and feel free to email me with anything you have. Please don't give me any feedback unless you have tried this or ridden with someone who was trying it.. The friend of the friend story is not what I am looking for.
thanks
J |
| I'm using it on two bikes... | b_dot
Mar 11, 2002 5:56 PM | | hey jay -- i'm using the stan's sealant on two different wheels, and have four wheels set up with his taping method. haven't used the integrated strips yet. sounds interesting tho.
as long as your bead is tight enough (i blew a bontrager jones off of a 317 rim), and you pay attention when you're seating the bead, it's a surprisingly reliable system. i've seen it seal two punctures. i had one case where the sealant couldn't do it, and i had to install a tube to get home. the downside is that it's sometimes pretty hard to get tires to inflate initially, especially since they (the tires) aren't made to be tubeless. some dishsoap and water in a spray bottle is your best friend here.
i've had the best luck using hutchison python golds or irc backcountrys. i'm using backcountrys now in fact. i like they way they ride, and they're pretty light for a big tire.
good luck. |
| re: Stans No Tube System | FM
Mar 11, 2002 9:18 PM | | I'm using Stans goop. At first it didn't work with my IRC mythos tires and x317 rims- too loose, I couldn't get the bead to seal after many tries. Stan told me that his rim strips would fix this- after seeing them on his site I made my own, things have worked great since. Here's how to make your own rimstrips cheap: find some 24"x1 threaded presta valve tubes. Stretch the tube around your rim with the stem going through the rim's hole, and cut the tubes down so that they cover the interior of the rim all the way up the sidewalls. Then put your tires on, with the beads "inside" the rimstrip. This tightens up the fit so getting the tire to inflate will be much easier. You still need Stans goop or latex. Also, most gas station air compressors and many bike store compressors may not go high enough- you need over 80psi (140 according to Stan, good luck finding that!) I bought a compressed air tank at Sears for $40, saves many headaches....Let the wheels sit overnight at 60 psi or so before riding them. Also, people talk about running 30psi, but I found this to be too low for fast descents and jumping- you can actually fold the tire over without getting a flat, but that won't keep you from crashing! |
| Yup.... | The Squeaky Wheel
Mar 12, 2002 7:01 AM | | Been using STan's new system for about 2 weeks. After the initial snags which were likely due to my learning curve, I've had several successful rides. Have used 3 different non-UST tires on Velocity rims running pressures around 36-40 psi. Really increases traction and provides a smooth ride. If it holds up it will definitely be worth the $50. I probably spend that much yearly in tubes. I only weigh 165# but am very pinch-flat prone at any pressure below 45 psi with tubes (can't possibly be due to my perfect riding technique).
A few lessons I've learned:
- Make sure you use plenty of latex, especially when the tire is new. I was only using a scoop at first, and some of that was lost during installation. 1.5-2 scoops is defintely better.
- It is possible to inflate the new system without an air compressor. I was successful on one tire with a floor pump, but 2 others required a quick blast from a CO2 cartridge. Of course a high-flow compressor will work. You don't need 80 psi as stated above. The 25 psi which the CO2 cartridge provides is sufficient.
- Carry a CO2 cartridge & inflator with you. At first, when I didn't have enough latex in the tire, I had a rear tire blowout completely during hard cornering. Was able to reinflate instantly with the CO2 trailside and went on my merry way.
- Because the rim strip occupies volume within the rim & bead lock, you'll find that the tires are a lot more difficult to install. Before trying take lots of soapy water and coat the tire sidewalls & rims. I've found this to really simplify tire mounting. Also, make sure you remove your existing rim tape before installing Stan's strip
- Check the weight board. There are a number of users there who can give you additional insight & tips.
Squeak |
| Didn't work for me | mtnbkaz
Mar 12, 2002 7:56 AM | | I tried it for about 3 months (the old system, not the new rim strips). I used 517 rims with Python Airlight tires. Had no problem getting them to inflate but I tore the sidewall in the rear twice and had the front blow off the rim in a hard corner. I weigh 190. Many people have gotten this system to work reliably but it just didn't work for me and is too risky for me to use in a race. YMMV |
| check the weight forum.... it should be called the "Stan's Forum | weezy
Mar 12, 2002 10:18 AM | | nm |
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