|   is a 25 degree stem too much???? | do23
Aug 6, 2002 5:03 PM | | i think im gonna buy the titec cromo stem on titec.com for $5 ......but they only have it in a 25 degree rise. i would like a more upright posistion but is that too much? i have a 7 degrees stem right now
thanks! |
| No different than installing a riser bar | Wrenchhead
Aug 6, 2002 5:59 PM | | Put it on and you be the judge. |
| IMHO.... | mbiggy
Aug 6, 2002 7:05 PM | | anythign over 15-20* IS TOOO much. You should get a riser bar not a stem. |
| IMHO....Curious | Wrenchhead
Aug 6, 2002 7:15 PM | | Why TOOO much? just curious to your reasoning. |
| too high a stem makes it look like a comfort bike (nm) | boozer
Aug 6, 2002 7:44 PM | | |
| So, strictly cosmetics? | Wrenchhead
Aug 6, 2002 8:41 PM | | So we're back to the watchful eye of the Fashion Police then? Ok, what if we want to use bar ends on flat bar (because as we all know, risers are forbidden to have bar ends) but want a higher bar, with this, still be an inch lower than the saddle, using a 25 degree riser. Can we not fit the bike to our self without feeling shame and guilt, knowing full well that it's sinful to be comfortable. |
| Oh yea! <i><b>MUCH</i></b> worse than... | shiggy
Aug 7, 2002 10:57 AM | | ...a zero degree stem with 2+ inches of spacers and a 2 inch riser bar.
IMO that is silly looking.
But OTOH I ride these:
25 degree stem BTW |
| dude don't you even care what other ppl think? (nm) | merry meet
Aug 7, 2002 12:12 PM | | |
| I only care about what works | shiggy
Aug 7, 2002 3:15 PM | | I will not use a set up that does not work for me just to conform to someone else's vision of what is "right."
I also do not condemn other people's preferences. I may joke about them...
Heck, go ahead and use a 40 degree stem, riser bars turned upside-down and L-bend barends pointed straight up if if works for you. Just do not tell me I have to use it, too or I am a fool if I do not. |
| Hehe, good one ... have you seen his bike? | Philber
Aug 8, 2002 2:51 AM | | just kidding of course - I'm a big proponent of function over form every time. But Shiggy's bike does look pretty unusual (to say the least). |
| IMHO....Curious | mbiggy
Aug 7, 2002 7:06 PM | | Hard to describe exactly, but it just feels funny. the Turning just doesnt feel right.
if you want me to explain the physics behind it... Tough, I cant. |
| No "physics" behind it... | næstep
Aug 7, 2002 7:57 PM | | It doesn't matter how you achieve a given hand position on a given frame be it through a higher rise stem, a spacer stack, a riser bar, or some combination there of everything else being equal, the bike will "feel" and handle the same.
In theory any of us could take the bike we ride now, draw an imaginary line from the hand grips to the steerer where it meets the upper headset bearing (doing away with the handlebar, stem, spacers, and any extra steerer tube sticking up) and we'd have the same ride. I'll leave it to you to figure out where to put the shifters and brake levers.
næstep |
| Definitely not too long... | næstep
Aug 6, 2002 8:13 PM | | ...just bike and rider dependant, like everything else.
I switched to a 25° stem on my previous bike to raise my bar up almost to inches, which still kept it 1.5" or so below my seat.
If you can post the length of your current stem, and how high you're trying to raise your bars, I can give you a pretty good idea of what rise and reach to look for.
And don't worry about appearances -- 25° doesn't look odd-ball or cruiser-ish. That doesn't really happen until you get into the 40° range. |
| For $5 its worth a try. | DM9
Aug 6, 2002 8:26 PM | | To hell with what it looks like. Try it if its comfortable for you and your riding style stick with it. I personally have a short 45deg rise stem with riser bar and I love the way my bike handles. especially downhill at speeds. |
| You're right; I shouldn't have generalized like that... | næstep
Aug 7, 2002 1:48 PM | | Sometimes it's easy to loose sight of what is important proper fit and comfort (well... comfort to a degree). Me saying a 45° stem is "too high" is no different to someone else saying a 25° stem is too high, or that one shouldn't install bar ends on a riser, etc. Fact is, I put a 40° stem on my wife's bike after a recent fork upgrade, to get her bar height back to where it was with her old quill stem.
næstep |
| You're right; I shouldn't have generalized like that... | mbiggy
Aug 7, 2002 7:12 PM | | just go to the lbs, try out a few different stems and handle bar setups and go with what FEELS right.
I think that bargain hunting and settling for a bargain part on something as important as geometry and bike setup/feel is NOT the best decision.
a 5 dollar part is fine for something like a derailer, or chain or whatnot... but if the price of a part that effects the feel of the bike directly alters whats best for you, then its a bad idea all together.
things NOT to skimp money on:
-bike seat
-stem length/angle
-handlebars
-pedals |
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