|   Running full-housing on the der. cables. | woodyak
Sep 3, 2002 10:38 AM | | I'm considering it but I'm concerned about boring the holes in my frame. Anyone out there running full D. cables. Any problems or issues? Should I just get good cables and stay standard? I already have full housing on my break cables and they work great. |
| Do not drill holes in your frame | shiggy
Sep 3, 2002 11:00 AM | | Just go ahead and use the full housing and run it along the frame tubes. No need to go internal and it would weaken the frame. |
| Don't bore holes in the frame | Mr Magoo
Sep 3, 2002 11:02 AM | | Ever. I believe you run a locomoto as I do. For those who run hydrolic brakes, there is a device that bolts into the cable stops to clip in the brake lines. I got 'em , they're slick, but zip ties would do the job. You could do the same with a derailler line right up to the last stop on the swing arm. I use flak jackets. Fully sealed from shifter to the last stop at the derailler. They look good but are not not dirt proof. After a year or so, I blew a lot of dust out of the lines. Many subscribe to frequent cable changes for better economy than flak jackets. |
| Don't bore holes in the frame | woodyak
Sep 3, 2002 12:45 PM | | I've got a set of Flak Jackets sitting right next to me. I plan on zip tying them to the frame for now. Any advice on setting up the Jackets, or are they pretty much the same as running regular cables? |
| Slack | Mr Magoo
Sep 3, 2002 12:59 PM | | Make sure that the arc or the swing arm is at its longest point, then add a little slack. You can do this by depressuring the shock. Don't start if you don't have nice sharp cable cutters. Instructions are good. The skinny red tubes along the open cable runs may not look straight when you are done. If this bothers you, hit it with a hair dryer to make things more taunt. You can search the Speedgoat site for cable holders just for knoweledge of available product.
As sealed and sterile this system seams, you will still find dirt in there after some time |
| If you drill holes in your frame... | uber-stupid
Sep 3, 2002 11:28 AM | | I will laugh at you, and call you stupid. you can use a dremel or a drill to take the stops out of the housing stops, and turn them into housing guides. There was a post on this in brake time earlier in the summer. There are too many ways to do it right to have to resort to drilling holes. |
| That's what I meant to say | woodyak
Sep 3, 2002 12:42 PM | | I'm considering drilling out the cable stops to turn them into housing guides. I'm having it done for my disc brakes I figured I'd do it for my D's as well.
I think I'll just zip tie them for now to see if I like it.
I would never actually drill into my frame. That would be stupid! |
| I did it. | Gavin
Sep 4, 2002 6:13 AM | | I drilled out the cable guides on my alu HT to run fully-housed cables. It wasn't too hard, (alu is soft!), you just need to be real careful not to slip and gouge the frame. Actuallt, they aren't fully-housed, I did not drill out the guides for the top tube, just the down stay.
The main change is that the time between maintenance increased. You still need to clean everything out once in a while and eventually replace cables too. |
| I was going... | Khemikal Ali
Sep 3, 2002 12:32 PM | | ...to do the same thing. I ran full length housing zip-tied to my frame for a while, but it still wasn't the end-all solution to my shifting woes on my Isis.
Scored an 8spd set-up (XT shifters, XTR 11/32 stainless cass, XTR 8/9 rear der) to replace my Mega(crappy) 9spd and have never looked back. Even went back to factory cable routing without any issues. 9 speed simply smokes big hairy donkey schlong. I was bending 11/34 and 11/32 9 speed cassettes just from chain tension - and yes, my drivetrain was aligned properly.
You can Dremel/drill, but I'd try different drivetrain combos before altering your frame - 8spd, or, God forbid, SRAM (only kidding, SRAM makes good stuff. I just prefer triggers, at least for the rear mech).
--Soupboy |
| my mrazek has full length housing thruout. | weather
Sep 3, 2002 7:38 PM | | sram 9.0 front and rear der. works flawlessly. |
| re: Running full-housing on the der. cables. | Hammerheadbikes
Sep 4, 2002 7:28 AM | | I ran full length housing just zip tied to the frame for a month to see how I liked it, worked fine
I bored out the stops with a dremel (had already done the rear brake stops) and ran full length housing with a slick teflon cable, ran dry
butter smooth, sealed, works great
the only caveat being that because you can't see or touch the der cable getting the proper cable tension without any ghost shifting can be a bit tricky...
that'a my only reservation to recommending it 100%
Charles
Hammerheadbikes |
| Not sure I understand ... | Philber
Sep 4, 2002 8:00 AM | | You said that "because you can't see or touch the der cable getting the proper cable tension without any ghost shifting can be a bit tricky". Why is that? I don't see or touch the cable now to adjust it - I just turn the barrel adjusters one way or the other. Why does having full length housing make it trickier to adjust? And are you saying that it is more sensitive to adjustment (i.e. that it comes out of adjustment eaiser)? Or just that it's harder to set up at first? Thanks. |
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