|   Question on new tubeless | dbackxt
Nov 7, 2002 6:16 AM | | Excuse my ignorance, but I was looking to upgrade to tubeless tires, and was wondering if I was going to have to buy new wheels. I currently have Sun Rhyno Lites with regular (non-disc) LX hubs? Thanks for your help. |
| re: Question on new tubeless | jcw
Nov 7, 2002 6:49 AM | | There's a product out there called Stan's No Tubes, or something like that, that allows you to go tubeless with your same wheel and tire. Those who've used it seem to like it. I haven't so I can't comment. Do a search on Stan's and I'm sure you'll find all you need to know. |
| www.notubes.com | ARmtnBIKER
Nov 7, 2002 8:09 AM | | Check it out, they work great. I've been running them for a few months now and have been pleased. I have however had a couple of flats but it was from cut sidewalls that would of resulted in walking the bike out if I would of been using standard tubes, instead the sealant tried its best to seal off the cuts and I was able to shoot air into the tire and ride it out both times with only a slow leak. The system allows you to run your standard non-tubeless rims with standard non-tubeless tires. You save weight and you can run low tire pressure to get better traction. Also if you have a bike with tubless rims you can put the sealant in them and it will allow you to run non-tubless tires on them, that allows a big weight savings plus not to mention the tires are cheaper. Just check out the notubes.com site and see for yourself. |
| re: Question on new tubeless | woodyak
Nov 7, 2002 11:04 AM | | If you wanted to go to the "standard UST" tubeless tires the answer is yes. You would need to get new UST rims. These rims have a special lip that connects with UST tires to form the seal. Also, the interior of the rim doesn't have the exposed spoke heads like regular rims and there's a special valve with a gasket on it for a complete seal. The majority of UST rims are designed for disc brakes only but I believe there are a couple that will work with rim brakes.
Stan's tubless is a viable alternative. I used the system for a few months before going to tubeless. I had good success with it on most tires. I would recommend trying Stan's first to see how you like it. Your investment is minimal ($60?) so if you don't like it you can always revert back to tubes. |
| I could be wrong, but.... | truant8
Nov 7, 2002 6:59 PM | | It's my understanding that what makes UST a tubeless system is the airtight rims and airtight tires. The beads and rim lips have nothing to do with it. That is why you can take a set of 517's, use a tubeless rimstrip to seal the rim and use a UST tire. 517's don't have special lips. By the same token, you can use a Crossmax UST rim since it's already airtight, throw some latex in there and use a standard tire with good results, no special bead on standard tire.
That is my understanding, anyway. |
| I could be wrong, but.... | truant8
Nov 7, 2002 9:30 PM | | It's my understanding that what makes UST a tubeless system is the airtight rims and airtight tires. The beads and rim lips have nothing to do with it. That is why you can take a set of 517's, use a tubeless rimstrip to seal the rim and use a UST tire. 517's don't have special lips. By the same token, you can use a Crossmax UST rim since it's already airtight, throw some latex in there and use a standard tire with good results, no special bead on standard tire.
That is my understanding, anyway. |
| Here's another approach.... | Benno
Nov 7, 2002 8:59 PM | | Check out the DIY tubeless approach on this site:
http://www.mtbfreak.com/sidewall_bread.asp
I haven't tried this myself but it looks interesting.
Normally UST tires require UST rims like the Mavic 3.1. However, you can also run UST tires with stan's rimstrips on non-ust rims. Haven't actually done this either, but thats what I've been told.
I'm currently using stan's with mavic 519 rims and WTB mutano raptor 2.4s. Works great! |
| re: Question on new tubeless | Mikerj
Nov 8, 2002 11:28 AM | | Try Stans Notubes. Read the reviews. I've posted.
I've been using Stan's for sveral months. This is the best single upgrade I've ever made to my bike.
Stan's really work great. When you add in the cost I think it's a no brainer.
Mike |
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