|   Cable routing on Avid Disc's? | BigDaddy
Jan 23, 2003 1:19 PM | | I believe I have read here that it is best to use uninterrupted cable housing all the way for the brake lever to the caliper? From what I recall interruptions will adversely impact the response of the brake or possibly drag?
Please confirm or feel free to comment as to whether this is a lot of hooey...... |
| Full length housing works best | shiggy
Jan 23, 2003 1:51 PM | | Allow for smoother routing, less drag because of fewer housing ends, cable stays cleaner. |
| Second (or third?) that and another tip | Tony Montana
Jan 23, 2003 4:09 PM | | Full length housing good. Also be careful which sealed ferrules you use (I don't like the sealed ones for mech discs) because some add significant drag which can overpower the already too weak return spring in the caliper. Anyone else here think Avid's need a stiffer return spring? Other than that I love 'em. |
| There is a spring tension adjustment screw on the caliper. nm | Tscheezy
Jan 23, 2003 6:48 PM | | |
| go full | GregR
Jan 23, 2003 2:01 PM | | Full housing is the way to go with any brake setup, especially if you ride in wet/muddy stuff. I reccomend it for any brake.
G |
| Depends | NCN
Jan 23, 2003 2:13 PM | | I agree with the others that full housing is a nice thing to have in general, but on a bike I built for my wife for Christmas, routing full housing through the fairly tight curves required by the bosses on the frame caused a lot of drag. I suspect a lot of that is because it was a really small frame. I ended up using Avid's Full Metal Jackets -- one of the rigid sections between the top tube cable stops and another between the brake and the small piece of housing around the seatpost. Hard to describe -- I can post a pic if anyone cares. The FMJ worked really well; much less drag than the full housing in this application. However, it was a fair amount of work setting it up.
Bottom line is that there isn't a set rule -- you may need to get creative depending on the frame. It's worth the trouble to get a nice, low drag feel. Good luck!
NCN |
| Please post a pic | singletrack
Jan 23, 2003 2:28 PM | | I'm going to add avids to a marin hardtail and was told Full Metal Jackets work the best. I would love to see how you routed with them. |
| Overall | NCN
Jan 23, 2003 6:39 PM | | If this works, it will be a picture of the overall installation. The stock routing was along the top of the top tube, and then on the bottom of the seat stay.
NCN |
| Rear detail | NCN
Jan 23, 2003 6:43 PM | | And here's a shot from the back showing the straight routing into the brake. Also note the shrink wrap (came with the FMJ kit) on the connections between the rigid sections and the standard housing, and the FMJ on the front brake too.
Give me a yell with any more questions, or if you need better pics.
NCN |
| Heatshrink came with it!?! | fonseca
Jan 23, 2003 9:15 PM | | That was so my idea. :) Been running heat shrink in those spots since FMJs came out. I have the post history to prove it!
It's cool that avid is including that with the FMJs now.
Fonseca NADS 898 |
| Mud buildup ever interfere with the cable? [nm] | OldSchool
Jan 24, 2003 10:39 AM | | . |
| No problems for me | shiggy
Jan 24, 2003 11:01 AM | | The only exposed cable is that short bit at the caliper and the rubber boot wipes it clean.
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| I bypassed the cable stops because of tight bends | shiggy
Jan 23, 2003 3:21 PM | | Worked much better |
| Not a lotta hooey, just a little... | Tscheezy
Jan 23, 2003 2:55 PM | | You will generally only save yourself maintenance with full housing. There are less ports for guck to enter through. I have not noticed any real increase in friction with well set-up cable stops over full housing. I have one bike with full housing and Avid discs, and one bike with normal non-continuous housing and Avid discs. I cannot see or feel any functional difference other than I lube my non-continuous housings about every 2 months and the full housing not at all (mainly because I cannot just slip it out of the slotted stops to lube it- I would have to undo the caliper cable binder bolt and pull it totally out of the housing= PAIN). No big whoop. If you can run full housing, sure, do it. If you can't, it is not worth drilling the stops out or getting hydaulic hose adapters. Gore brake cables are nice too. I have some which have been trouble/maintenance free for years.
tscheezy |
| re: Cable routing on Avid Disc's? | Dave in Ak
Jan 23, 2003 4:36 PM | | I lost the use of my rear brake on a long point to point mtn pass ride last summer. I then went to full length housing and did bypass the stops and used zip ties instead. NOT one problem after that. My vote is for full length houseing, friction is not an issue.
Dave |
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