|  How good is Tange Prestige compared to other quailty steels? | MountainPro Jan 24, 2003 1:49 AM | | Basically thats the question. How good is Tange Prestige compared to other quailty steels such as Reynolds 853 Columbus etc.... |
|  no longer made | bn Jan 24, 2003 5:19 AM | | but still limited availability and still used by some builders. one of the first high-strength, lightweight, thin-walled tubesets. can't remember if it was heat-treated or not. probably more comparable to 753. still decent. here's some specs of other tubesets---> http://www.strongframes.com/frames/tubing/tubing_specs.html |
|  Here some interesting stuff... | Steve-O Jan 24, 2003 6:03 AM | | Back in the day Prestige was THE tubing to have.
Last year IRD used Tange NEW PRESTIGE tubing for their framesets. They seem to be the only framebuilder I've seen recently that even mentions Tange. There is no mention that it is air hardening steel which makes me think that it isn't quite comparable to 853 or OX Platinum.
What's also interesting is that for 2003 IRD is using 853. |
|  Yes..air hardened/heat treated....too bad... | Ebo Jan 24, 2003 8:23 AM | | IRD has not changed their frame geometry for 2003. Seems to me the top tubes are a bit on the short side. 2 cents. |
|  Good Stuff | Pitbull Jan 24, 2003 9:33 AM | | In 1992 in was the tubing to have. I have a 94 kona with that same heat treated tubing and the bike is still in operation today. It is quality material and I wouldn't say anything bad about it. A few years ago only quality frames would use it, so it is safe to assume that any frame with this tubing is still a quality piece.
As for how it compares to todays' tubings, hard to say. Columbus tubing is made to exhibit different characteristics, it is suppose to be the "Stiff" steel and produces a different ride. It is probably closest to the 535 reynolds. Has more give than 853 reynolds to give a more comfortable ride. In my opinion it is just as strong, It is hard to compare the differences in strength. The differences in thesholds would not be noticed much on the trail, but I would trust it above what alunimum has to offer.
All in all it is good stuff, Steel has a life span 6 times longer than alunimum, and at least 2 times as long as titanium. I am sure you know the rest. |
|  re: How good is Tange Prestige compared to other quailty steels? | MountRealRider Jan 24, 2003 9:47 AM | | ... I had a Tange Prestige fully rigid mtb... butted and bi-ovalised tubes.... very comfortable. I would say it is a little bit heavier and flexier than more recent steels. I would not hesitate to buy a used frame for cheap as a second bike, but for your main ride let the builders choose a more modern alloy... |
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