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speacialized epic(7 posts)

speacialized epicAsh
Apr 24, 2003 11:29 PM
I am a xc rider who ocasionaly races. I was wondering if investing in an epic is really worth it. I was also looking ata couple of rocky mountain bikes as well. Also the Kona Kikapu Delux. What do you think? (weight is an issue for me).
weight is not the issueMarm
Apr 25, 2003 4:13 AM
spelling is
re: speacialized epicThe Weasel
Apr 25, 2003 5:17 AM
the Epic isn't all that light. And it's overpriced IMO.
re: speacialized epicLow_bias
Apr 25, 2003 7:43 AM
Is it just me, or does the "brain" on the Specialized Epic basically do the same thing static friction, or "stiction", did back in the old days? My old Mag 20 had loads of stiction. It was totally unresponsive to the motions of my body, and to small bumps. Strictly big-hit cusioning. Does anybody want stiction in their forks today? No- fork designers went to great lengths to get rid of it. The Epic doesn¡¦t activate until you hit a 1G bump. Wouldn¡¦t it have been simpler and BETTER to have an adjustable stiction band (something like a brake pad) that you could adjust to have your suspension activate at whatever force you please? This would be force sensitive rather than acceleration sensitive, but to compensate it would have the advantage of being easily adjustable. It seems this would provide functionally identical results, as long as your pedal forces don¡¦t apply more force than would 1G of acceleration to the rear wheel (which I doubt they would). So what¡¦s the deal? Is the Epic merely techno-gimmickry? Were they sitting on their thumbs for the first 3.9 years of the ¡§four year development¡¨? It seems like it shouldn¡¦t take 4 years to put a brass weight in a cylinder!

Adam
(Patent pending on ¡§stiction band¡¨ technology. Look for it in about 4 years ƒº)

Note: the question I asked yesterday is more important to me than this one, so if you can only answer one¡K
Wrong, Low biasDamion
Apr 25, 2003 9:28 AM
No, it is not operating like a "friction band" as you suggest. The valve takes a 1G force to activate it, but the it REMAINS open, and active, until the trail smooths out, using the FSR suspension design.
Wrong, Low biasLow_bias
Apr 25, 2003 10:33 AM
I know how it works. I said it is FUNCTIONALLY similar- not mechanically the same. I guess you would have to find some way to take the friction off once it starts moving though, so it wouldn't stick along different parts of its travel- only in the topped out position.
Epic Disc ReviewSteve Wolf
Apr 25, 2003 6:26 PM
I don't race, I just like to ride XC all day. The bike is great and the shock works as advertised. Pick up the March 2003 issue of Mountain Bike Action Magazine and read what they say about the Epic and brain shock. Here are a few quotes:

"Is the Epic a better cross country racer than a hardtail? Absolutely."

"Can the Epic sprint like a hardtail? The Epic doesn't sprint like a hardtail. It sprints better."

"How does the Epic climb? ...simply motors uphill."

"...you are thinking...suspension can't kick in fast enough. Wrong."

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