|   Performance LunarLight Tubes-good/bad? | E:\Drive
May 21, 2003 10:12 AM | | Anyone used these tubes? I just picked up a couple. Although lighter in weight, they're also quite thin. Now I'm wondering if it's worth the increased risk of getting a flat by using these. |
| ha ha ha ha ha. tubes are a joke | thetitans
May 21, 2003 11:45 AM | | just returned mine to get the 124 gm light tubes. lunar lights will flat during installation, while you ride, or any other time if you look at them funny. I bought them to race and you can't win races with flat tires. stay away. check the reviews. |
| ha ha ha ha ha. tubes are a joke | E:\Drive
May 21, 2003 12:14 PM | | I'll be sure to heed your advice...... |
| If you want lighter tubes.... | pixelninja
May 21, 2003 12:41 PM | | just buy regular tubes that are spec'ed for 1.25-1.75. About as light as "ultralight" tubes and cost half as much. |
| Maxxis & Torelli work well for me | Mikey
May 21, 2003 1:17 PM | | Haven't used the Performance Lunarlights, but I've been using the Torelli and Maxxis Ultralight for years pretty successfully. These are around 115g. Low pressure (~32lb) + sharp rocks + fast speed still sometimes pinchflats this 175lb rider. So I know certain rides where I use more pressure. The Maxxis ones are quite a deal at only $4 each direct from Maxxis.com. |
| Performance Lunar Lites SUCK! | SunDog
May 21, 2003 2:53 PM | | Go Torelli.
Performance should pay people who take their crappy tubes. Like me, I once bought a dozen while overseas and they were the absolute worse tubes I have ever had the misfortune to use.
The Torelli's are reasonably light @ 235g and durable.
Louis |
| 235g is reasonably light for a tube?????????? | upNdown
May 22, 2003 4:02 AM | | 235g would be reasonbly light for a pair of tubes. I usually just run standard tubes now because my tires are 2lbs each, but when I was worried about weight, 235g would have been completel unreasonable for me.
Performance makes some light tubes that aren't paper-thin like the lunars; they come in about 120g, and I'd say that's reasonably light. |
| My typing SUCKS! | SunDog
May 22, 2003 7:32 AM | | 135g not 235g. |
| re: Performance LunarLight Tubes-good/bad? | Loose Screw
May 21, 2003 5:40 PM | | This is my second season on them. One flat while installing and one riding. I mainly do single track and run fire xc pro's at 30-35 lbs. Weight 140lbs. |
| I've had such horrible luck with ANY Performance tubes... | Mackie
May 21, 2003 6:28 PM | | that I will never buy them again. The lunars come with holes pre-installed, i think.
I really like the Maxxis .45 mil ones. I'm on the heavy side for using such light tubes, but they have been working for me for a while now. |
| LITE TUBES + MTB = FLATS | bagz
May 21, 2003 6:35 PM | | (lose the grams another place, or go tubeless) |
| I've had fairly good luck with them... | pimpbot
May 21, 2003 10:15 PM | | ...but I seem to be in the minority. I've had a couple of flats, both due to a dislodged rim strip and the tube wearing a hole in itself on a burr on my rim (stupid Bonti ribbon rim strips!). New wider thicker rim strips seems to have fixed the issue. I also put an extra layer of rim strip around the valve stem, forcing it though an undersized hole so it has an extra flange around itself.
Before I had a rash (if you call two two weeks apart a rash) of flats, I went for a year and a half and 800 miles without a flat, knock on wood.
But dang, at 95g they are seriously uber-light. The best weight savings deal out there, providing you don't have issues. |
| My stats... | pimpbot
May 23, 2003 12:40 PM | | I'm 207 lbs
ride XC, some really rocky stuff
my bike is a hardtail Giant
Bontrager Mustang rims
Performance bike cloth rim strips
Deore Disc brake front
IRC Mythos XC 2.1 tires front and rear at 40-45psi
and I almost never get flats. I have never pinch flatted |
| Torelli's are good, but Stan's is the best! | Truth
May 22, 2003 3:48 AM | | Have not tried any performance tubes, but have used Torelli Ultralites for many years. They work very well, and at $4 a piece from Jenson USA, the price can't be beat. I recently switched to Stan's Notube system, and it is MUCH better than any ultralite tube. My wheels are lighter, less rolling resistance, almost flat proof, and I can run lower pressures for more traction. Go with Stan's, you won't be disappointed. |
| Not everyone can afford $70 for the Stans setup. | SunDog
May 22, 2003 7:34 AM | | |
| Not everyone can afford $70 for the Stans setup. | Truth
May 22, 2003 7:57 AM | | Very true. It is not cheap, but I was paying close to that amount per year for tubes, patches, etc. So the yearly cost for me was about the same. I ride in Central Texas, lots of cactus, mesquite thorns, and lots of other stuff to puncture tires. Others might not have nearly the problem we do with flats.
Stan's has given me a lighter wheelset and flat resistance. Now I don't have to stop at least once on every ride to fix a flat. That is worth more to me than the weight reduction. |
| I was under the impression.... | pixelninja
May 22, 2003 10:09 AM | | that a Stan's setup would be heavier than using traditional tubes. Anybody have any actual numbers to prove me wrong? |
| I like the lunar lights | fattirewilly
May 22, 2003 12:41 PM | | I've been on Lunars exclusively for 3 years now. Only get holes with thorns or pinch flat punctures (rare if you keep enough pressure). Your get flats those ways with regular tubes too. I often go months without a flat riding east coast trails. Although there are times when I've have 2 flats on the same day...
BTW - I'm 225 lb |
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