|   Truth VS Id | wyrm
Jun 18, 2003 10:35 AM | | I've been eye balling Ellsworth for while and really have the urge to buy one when I get the money saved up. My only problem is which one, the Truth or the Id. Concider that I am 200lbs. I started as a XC style rider, but have become more and more agressive. I do 4' to 5' drops on my GT hardtail. My up hill technical ability is beginning to get better. I love the long up hills and the long rewarding down hills. I've been riding for about two seasons.
My first choice was the Truth because I could do alot of distance riding but still be able to down hill. But the Id is more agressive which I am becoming more of. I would like a Fox Vanilla 125 RL on it which the Truth isn't supose to handle.
What do you think, from what I've provided? Let me know the pros and cons from real expirience, if you can.
Wyrm |
| re: Truth VS Id | J.S.
Jun 18, 2003 11:03 AM | | In your case, I'd probably go for an ID. Keep in mind that the ID is not a freerider, but it is beefier long travel trail bike. It does have a very high BB, so it will take some getting used to.
Another alternatives is the Turner 5-Spot. This frame has some ICT in its design minus the higher BB, a more stable geometry, and very good standover clearance.
FYI, I ride a newer Truth at 195lbs. Definitely get a Romic shock for either Id or 5-Spot. |
| re: Truth VS Id | TruckeeLocal
Jun 18, 2003 11:20 AM | | The Id isn't that much heavier than a Truth, and it climbs well. It's built a bit beefier than a Truth and should handle some abuse by a 200 pound rider better than a Truth. It's designed for a 125 fork.
On the other hand the Id is $200 more and does have a high bottom bracket and longer wheelbase which makes it a bit tougher in tight single-track.
I'd say get the Id, which is what I did. Why the Vanilla 125 RL ? I went with the 125 R and haven't missed the lockout feature at all. It's wierd how little the front forks move when climbing, at least while seated. By the way I'm 210 and also spend most of my time climbing on fire-roads. It is nice to have a lot of suspension on the way back down. Wee hee ! |
| re: Truth VS Id | Crash_FLMB
Jun 19, 2003 4:55 AM | | I went with the ID as well and the high BB took a little time to get used to (2-3 rides). So I wouldn't let that discourage you. Now when I hop on my Sugar for racing, I can just tell how much better built and beefer the Id is. It's much more stable while slamming downhill and as long as you stay seated, it climbs amazingly well. Very, very little bob. I'm only 160 lbs. so either bike would have worked for me. But I decided I wanted the extra travel which comes in handy.
But I would have to recommend a Marzocchi Z1 FR and the Romic. They just totally complete the bike. Just my .02. |
| Neither | Ratt
Jun 18, 2003 1:40 PM | | Both bikes are too lightwieght for 5' drop from a 200 pounder. You pretty much need a real freeride bike for that kind of riding. |
| YEP I agree also keep in mind | Trevor!
Jun 18, 2003 1:47 PM | | I think the numbers on the ID (Geometry) just dont support Doing big drops and what have you. Its really more of an XC bike with odd geometry!
I really hope to get a Truth in the near future! |
| re: Truth VS Id | timmyb
Jun 19, 2003 6:56 AM | | The Id is a great rough trails XC bike--and the high bottom bracket is overall a plus. However, you should consult with the folks at Ellsworth, and be honest with them about your size and riding style--I'm pretty sure they will steer you to a Joker, which is built more for freeriding abuse. With a Romic shock it is still a good pedaller (someone reviewed one today--take a look at the Reviews). Another option is the discontinued Turner RFX--if you can find one. |
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