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why carry both pump & CO2 ?(10 posts)

why carry both pump & CO2 ?EconoLine
Aug 14, 2003 10:47 AM
A recent issue of MB Action magazine had an article on what Richard Cunningham carries in his CamelBak for epic rides. They had a list of 28 items, and can I understand them all except for 2.

He carries BOTH a mini-pump (Crank Bros) and a CO2 inflator (with large cartridge). Any theories as to why he'd carry two different tire inflators? My guess is that the CO2 is backup for the pump, just in case the pump failed. Any other ideas? What do you guys think of CO2 inflators in general?
In my case I carry the pump to backup the c02 if I run out, andmoab63
Aug 14, 2003 10:56 AM
only if Im going in long rides point to point. In loops I usually carry just c02. Guys like to be carry to much crap. One tube, pump c02, multi tool, chain pin , bars and cell phone.
MBaction Yahoos +TubelessDuff
Aug 14, 2003 11:12 AM
makes the CO2 cartidges a must have, probabely add a race feel too
Oh yes me tubeless too, so only one flat all year..moab63
Aug 14, 2003 11:19 AM
re: why carry both pump & CO2 ?baker
Aug 14, 2003 12:35 PM
co2 and a pump for races, since co2 is wicked fast and I don't want to be screwed if I run outta co2. I was lucky enough to get to use my co2 setup twice last weekend in the Leadville 100. much quicker and easier than pumping a tiny hand pump.

pump only for regular rides. I'm not in a big rush to fix my flats and using co2 on a regular basis would be costly and wasteful (imho).

baker
What CO2 pump is best and ......Loose Screw
Aug 15, 2003 1:51 AM
how many cartridges do you bring?? They come in differant sizes? will most inflators handle the bigger ones?

Thanx
I also carry both because both methods can failclub
Aug 15, 2003 4:22 AM
I've seen my share of pumpheads that decide to snap off on the trail, and also quite a few folks who fail to get their tire inflated with a CO2.
CO2 faster, pump more reliableBH
Aug 15, 2003 6:35 AM
I carry both on group rides to expedite repairs.
re: why carry both pump & CO2 ?Bikeless Rider
Aug 15, 2003 2:45 PM
You've got it backwards, a good pump is always the backup to any CO2 device. CO2 is best for racing, yuppies with little time, and those "we'll ride with you, but you're on your own if you stop" days. I find that a good pump( double O ring piston seals, secure locking head, very little shaft slop at full extension, two-way action(pumps on the push and the pull), comfortable handle, short enough to fit in a camleback, but long enough to keep you from feeling like you've been jerking off your bike for hours, under 200 grams(less than a goog multitool), and lifetime warranty. Did I just describe the ever popular Blackburn Mt. pump or what? By the time you assemble the CO2 kit with all it,s cartrigdes(enough for an epic ride),at best your saving a little tme and very little weight. On the other hand, you can always use it to carbonate your energy drink if you get tired of fiddling with what is essentially a miniture fire extinguisher(handy if your disc brakes cause the forest tinder to catch fire).
I know what you mean...pedalinbob
Aug 15, 2003 3:30 PM
a guy left the parking lot ahead of me. he was riding an ultralight hardtail with klimax lites. he had no saddle bag or camelbak. he had a tiny kit attached to the seatpost: 1 tube, 2 c02 carts and a couple of tire levers.

20 minutes later, i came upon him. he double flatted. i was a very nice guy and gave him my spare tube--i SHOULD have given him my patch kit and told him to wait for the next guy to borrow a pump.

I always help those in need, but it is tremendously dumb to go out on a ride without the proper gear. i carry a quality mini pump, fresh patch kit (good glue), spare tube and tire levers. i can repair 10 flats if needed.

I am just starting to use a camelbak, so i still have a big 'ol saddle bag--with good tools and enough gear to get me home.

Bob
 


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