|   newbe tubeless Q. | Scalpel
Oct 20, 2003 4:40 PM | | just got small nail in my Hutchinson Scorpion tubeless tire grrr (first time dealing with tubeles), anyway how do you patch tubeless tire can you use the same patches from the regular iner tube or not,also what product do you recommend/use (can not search the archives ...cuz for some reason it shows "Error"....), which store do cary pathing kit .... for example REI ?
Do you need to "bead" the the tubeless tire if you have to remove it and patch it from inside ....?
Thank you |
| I've patched UST multiple times.... | The Squeaky Wheel
Oct 20, 2003 5:15 PM | | Here's how to make it good as new.
Remove the tire & locate the defect. Clean the inside of the tire over the hole with brake cleaner (about $3 for a can which will last a lifetime). Rub the area good & clean & blow with a hair dryer for a minute. Repeat above step. Take the cement from a standard patch kit & apply to the area to be repaired. Blow with the dryer until thoroughly dry. Apply standard bike patch and you're good to go.
I use, and recommend, Stan's sealant or similar latex product to seal everything. I put it in all my UST tires and have had only one flat in 2 years due to a very large thorn.
Squeak |
| Depending on the size of the hole you might be able to use | moab63
Oct 20, 2003 6:00 PM | | regular patches, make sure you scuff the area really good I use a dremel tool. For bigger holes 1/8 +, I bought some tubeless patches at a motorcycle shop very cheap and cut to size. |
| re: Thanks for the quick replys guys ............ do have | Scalpel
Oct 20, 2003 7:37 PM | | some more Q/s.
Friend of mine just told me (what he heard ) is that I have to change the valves in order to use the Stan ........
I have presta valves on my rims so do I have to change them to the regular shroder style or not, also do I have to bore bigger holes in the rims in order to fit shroder valve (don't know if their base is the same compared to the presta one's ) ?
Is there another way to patch tubeless besides:
1:Stan
2.Patch from inside with patches and glue
3. why not PLUGS like on the cars tires (no need to remove tire or to fill it with glue), ..... or that is NOT invented for the bikes yet ?
Thanks |
| re: Thanks for the quick replys guys ............ do have | The Squeaky Wheel
Oct 20, 2003 9:51 PM | | I assume that you're using UST tires on UST rims, correct?
you do not need to replace any valves. Just add Stan's sealant which is essentially watered down latex.
I'm not aware of any plugs for MTB tires. Use at your own risk. My solution is tried & true and will make your tire good as new. It only takes about 5 minutes.
Squeak |
| Answers, well you use the presta valves to add the stans, | moab63
Oct 20, 2003 9:53 PM | | I never do it like that, I add it and if I need to add more I break the bead is way faster. See the deal is, that after the tire is seal it will hold the air forever, you only need to add more goop because it dries up, I find it easier to carry a spare tube, I only had one flat after riding and racing for a whole year.
You can also make your own homebrew sealant.
Bike tires are to thin to hold a plug in place. |
| I agree Stans w/ UST. I don't like it on regular non UST tires | Sea Otter
Oct 21, 2003 7:25 AM | | I tried to runs stans on non UST tires and did not have a good experience. Some have and more power to them. On my UST tires I put a very large goat head thorn thru my front tire. When I got home I pulled the thorn and I was flat, well my tire was, in a minute. I broke the bead just enough to get the tip of the Stans bottle in the gap and gave it a good squirt. Re-seated the bead and put air in the tire. The latex bubbled up in the hole for about 10 seconds and boom I was back in business.
Great news is the tire has not lost one pound of pressure in over a week! |
| Thanks for the great info guys- Squeak, Moab63 and Sea Otter -> | Scalpel
Oct 21, 2003 9:08 AM | | Yes the rims and the tires are tubeless - btw what is "UST" ....the last "T" should be tubeless but what is the "US..." ?
So...... Stan sealant seals the small holes by the air pressure from inside out ...K, but is there any chance to seal and the valve when you are checking the pressure and some air is escaping at that moment .... "pssssssst", and by that to clog the needle inside the valve ?
J. some more Q.:
- is Stan the best product ( where can I get it ? ), I see over www.rei.com they do sell another product called "Slime" for the same purpose, but it said NOT recommended for the use on presta tubes (hmmmm well what is the difference btween the tubeless tire with presta valve and tube with presta valve - to me they all use presta valve .... if it is not good for the one it is the same for the other too isn't it or I'm wrong ) ?
http://www.rei.com/online/store/ProductDisplay?productId=2264&storeId=8000&catalogId=40000008000&langId=-1
- how much do you need to pour in 26x2.0 size tire - (is it by the tire size or by the holes) ?
THANKS guys |
| Thanks for the great info guys- Squeak, Moab63 and Sea Otter -> | The Squeaky Wheel
Oct 21, 2003 9:13 AM | | in 3 years of using Stan's I have never had problems with the valve clogging. A quart of Stan's will seal roughly 15-20 tires. I think that UST= Universal Standard Tubelss. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
My understanding is that the Slime is much more viscous and heavy. Stan's is a very watery latex solution.
Stan's can be had from stan. www.notubes.com. Speedgoat also sells it. Reportedly you can buy mold builder latex at a art/craft shop and add 1-2 parts water and get the same effect. I'm running low on Stan's and will try the homebrew next.
Squeak |
| that was soo quick - thanks Squeak | Scalpel
Oct 21, 2003 9:21 AM | | |
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