|  Unusual mtb frame | meen-geen Jan 16, 2004 9:11 PM | | I ran across an unusual looking full sus. frame on the internet. the owner has been told it's not a Schwinn as the stickers show and I agree. I have picture for email but would like to describe frame. If you think you know what it is let me know---please. the entire frame is alum, the downtube is slightly oval and mostly rectangular. It is open under downtube and the rear coilover shock is in the opening. the shock has a small hose going to a resevoir cylinder further up the downtube. the rearend pivots around b/b and has linkage under the b/b area. It's not a howngrown, rocket, delta , straight 4,6, or 8 or anything like I've ever seen. HELP !! |
|  Just give us the damn ebay auction link... | DeeEight Jan 17, 2004 3:47 AM | | so we can look at it ourselves cause yer description sucks.
But offhand its likely the Schwinn-Buell frame as most people who think they know bikes, armchair experts and the like, haven't ever actually seen one. |
|  Nevermind, I found it myself... let the bidding/ID war begin... | DeeEight Jan 17, 2004 5:10 AM | | http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3653650000&category=22679 |
|  Re:ust give us the damn ebay auction link... | I HATESMARTSSES Jan 17, 2004 7:22 AM | | Must you always be an arrogant, prick every time you reply to anything? Everyone knows you are a knowledgeable bike guy, but couldn't you try to be a little more civil about it? |
|  Re:ust give us the damn ebay auction link... | pnassmac Jan 17, 2004 9:02 AM | | I think what motivates D8 to behave the way he does is because of an inferiority complex he's developed which is unknown to the patient (D8). In non-medical parlance, he's a classic textbook case.
Symptomatically, lay people recognize it as being elitist/arrogant but fail to recognize the individual has some serious doubts about themselves. Granted, D8 may know a lot about bicycles, but clinically (and most likely in practice), his failings elsewhere create the attitude seen on this board whereby he feels he can "make up" for his weaknesses berating/belittling others behind the safety of his keyboard. If he were in a bar his friends would be his strenght to expressive his abrasive behavior within their relative safety, but alone the individual would most likely shrivel.
More usual reasons are lack of earnings as compared to his peers, relationship issues with authority figures (parents,police) and the opposite sex, comparative issues as in where his peers stand socially as compared to himself.
Also in practice a individual will, in light of the above paragraph, grapple with bouts of depression, anger, and frustration that typically devolve into more problematic symptoms.
Consistent with his behavior, D8 will deny all the above, as he should, because it is not only his right to deny it, but also part of the behavior so typical of his case.
pnassmac |
|  I behave exactly the same in person.... | DeeEight Jan 17, 2004 11:29 AM | | and the people who like to talk about me hiding behind my keyboard are the ones who always seem to end up hiding when it comes to dealing with me in person.
Now if armchair shrinks wanna analyse me and make themselves seem important, go right ahead. But then they're being just a tad hypocritical as then they're the ones hiding behind the keyboard and saying stuff about me that'll get them a shot to the head in person. |
|  I behave exactly the same in person.... | pnassmac Jan 17, 2004 11:51 AM | | It was a professional opinion and a figurative example, and clearly my last paragraph has accurately summed you up.
Symptomatically, when in a state of denial in regard to the issues noted in paragraph 3, ( ...lack of earnings as compared to his peers, relationship issues with authority figures (parents,police) and the opposite sex, comparative issues as in where his peers stand socially as compared to himself.) it is not uncommon to attack others rather than accepting what they do need to do to find ways to resolve these issues.
Regards,
pnassmac |
|  So you're professionally an armchair shrink... | DeeEight Jan 17, 2004 11:54 AM | | who hides behind his keyboard? Great. My moron magnet is still working full charge. |
|  So you're professionally an armchair shrink... | pnassmac Jan 17, 2004 12:16 PM | | Unprofessinally, and in my opinion, you are not a strong wage-earner, more likely to take advantage of others, between relationships or in a very superficial, unmeaningful one (with the opposite sex), has a limited education, harder on individuals rather than yourself(though pro-claims to be the opposite), impatient, and liked mostly by his friends because of the pressure he exerts on them to be his friends.
I don't expect you to accept the truth, much as I don't expect alcholics or drug addicts to admit they have a problem. It's just a matter of time before your callousness (my opinion) catches up with you. Consider it a helpful suggestion (though I'm sure you won't). The realization won't occur until you hit bottom and blame everyone else for your misery.
Best of Luck.
pnassmac |
|  And like all armchair experts, you're wrong more often than not. | DeeEight Jan 17, 2004 2:09 PM | | But then, you'll be incapable of accepting that truth so I'm not even going to bother laying out all the areas you got wrong. I'm done with you. Rant away all you like but I'm through wasting my time with you. |
|  And like all armchair experts, you're wrong more often than not. | Sonntag Jan 17, 2004 9:37 PM | | I think he got the last word. It's obvious he was done with you way before you were done with him.
Good luck lonely man who considers his right hand his girlfriend and earns a minimum wage. The masses have spoken and it's official - you are a loser with a capital "L". :) |
|  And like all armchair experts, you're wrong more often than not. | done that Been there Jan 17, 2004 9:50 PM | | Here, here,
D8's a Loser - bigtime. He has no credibility on this board and wastes space. Like pnassmac said, he's like a geek jerkin' off and claimin' he knows how to lay them and slay them. There's a name for these types of guys, "Prison Bitch". Pnassmac was way done with you like shit on toilet paper on the way down the flusher before you even HAD a chance to reply. Good bye D8, you need a life - 'cause it's not here. Go masturbate in the privacy of your own home versus these boards. |
|  Supporting yourself using different aliases... | DeeEight Jan 18, 2004 12:26 AM | | from the same IP#65.31.60.161 simply proves that in reality, I'm the guy with the life, and you're the hairy palmed loser with a capital "L". You really ought to learn not to try and post under aliases when nobody's rushing to agree with your lame psychobabble, as it simply invalidates your argument as it couldn't very well stand on its own against my experience and logic.
Pitiful, truly pitiful. Or did you really think I or anyone else who knows what the view page source code button was for, would be fooled by your multiple ass-slapping responses to yourself?
"I think he got the last word. It's obvious he was done with you way before you were done with him. "
Actually what's obvious is I totally shut you down so you tried using two different aliases to post responses claiming that you didn't get owned and that you're not my little bitch now, which you are. Now bend over and squeal like a pig boy. |
|  Don't dignify Deight's existense by responding. BOYCOTT D8 | done that Been there Jan 17, 2004 9:59 PM | | D8,
You claim you don't have time to answer pnassmac. The reality is you know what pnassmac is true. You're a loser and you know it. I've seen your un-provoked rants against Nino and it's obvious. You are un-educated and make very litte money which is in part a sign of your value - nothing.
Rant all you want on these boards, people know you're value-less and full of shit. We don't care about your opinions or input. You are worthless. Nothing about you is worth replying too. |
|  Or maybe he's just a dick. (nm) | Drewdane Jan 17, 2004 4:38 PM | | |
|  hehehe. there's always that theory (nm) | Yeti_Rider Jan 17, 2004 4:56 PM | | |
|  Actually I'm an asshole and I don't play well with morons. | DeeEight Jan 18, 2004 12:27 AM | | And the armchair loser above, under all three of the handles he used, is a moron. |
|  re: Unusual mtb frame | meen-geen Jan 17, 2004 7:13 PM | | I really don't understand why most of the replys sound like candidates for the Jerry Springer show. I asked what I thought was a straight forward plea for help, not wanting to use this forum for people who have axes to grind or those people who simply don't anything better to do than than waste space. I apoligize for the ones who would like to hear answers. Obviously mtbreview doesn't screen replys. |
|  post it in the DH forum... | DeeEight Jan 18, 2004 12:29 AM | | that looks like a boutique builder prototype or team only model. |
|  post it in the DH forum... | pnassmac Jan 18, 2004 8:21 AM | | D8,
Those posts were all obvious lures and I caught you to prove a point I'll make below. Isn't it you who wrote you were done with me? I think so.
You are so dependent on other people to validate your shamefuly sad existence that you HAD to, in this instance, return to this thread to search for other responses against YOU and to return a post (several times at that). You know it feels good for you when people dislike you. It's a need and you constantly crave it because you know it garners you more attention that you deserve.
And it's funny D8, Drewdane and Yeti_rider (separate IP #'s) seem to agree with me, though expressing it more directly, and I haven't read anyone defending you.
I know you'll say you don't need anyone to defend you with the attitude that you've always taken care of yourself, but we all know the opposite is true. Someone is taking care of you right now because we all know you can't do it yourself with your attitude.
Unless you are supremely competent peforming a task someone is willing to pay you gobs of money for (and we are sure you're not a strong wage-earner) your attitude is only tolerated, at best, in menial, mindless performing jobs (if you have a job).
And given your consistently short responses it's obvious you barely made it through high school.
I feel completely confident with my assesment. You wrote you don't have time for me yet you respond to all of my "rants". You haven't denied anything I've written and you've done nothing but call me names. I'll give you a little lesson now - when a debate devolves into one party resorting to name-calling, it's obvious to all the name-caller has lost.
So again, good luck. I'm sure you'll respond because you NEED it. Without me and this board you feel you are nothing and your desperate craving for attention will DRIVE YOU TO RESPOND. I know it. I see it everyday. The sad thing for me is I'm not getting paid for my time like I usually do, but then weekends are for fun.
pnassmac :)
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|  excuse me sir | jasonwa Jan 18, 2004 12:45 PM | | This is all said with respect and not meant to be mean or malicious
in any way.
Either you get paid to council(you call it figuring people out) people or you do not.Which is it?
You insinuated both .I am not standing up for d8.
Its just that people that get paid to do that sort of thing are caring people.Your words were very angry.Someone in touch with himself and others wouldn't spout such hate.
Whats with talking about all the income? Why is this a issue with you?
Your last paragraph is pretty ironic.I think you described yourself
accept the last part where you said you get paid for it.
peace out. GOD LOVES YOU! God loves everyone!! regardless of your skin color or where you live. |
|  Isn't stating that "God loves us all" a simple armchair guess? | hmmm Jan 18, 2004 8:05 PM | | I mean, you have no proof, simply a guess based on your immediate observations. God may not love us all, and it is arrogant of you to speak for "that entity". I feel certain that Jesus would bristle at contemporary christian interpretations of his utterings. no one has an upper hand, regarless of how brainwashed you may be in regards to your own "rightiousness". Spirit bless, if applicable. |
|  God is love! | jasonwa Jan 19, 2004 12:17 AM | | glad to hear you believe in his son jesus
ooh yeah ,the lords people are given the upper hand.
BIg time.He will bless those that bless you and curse those that curse you.Do you ever feel like things dont seem to go your way?ever?
I dont.He moves mountains for me.The more i praise him and The more people i tell,the more mountains he moves.I have sinned,i do sin,I am a sinner.He still loves me.HE LOVES YOU TOO. ALL your deeds ,thoughts,actions and decisions have led you to the spot you are today.Let god lead you. |
|  You're a nut ... | Philber Jan 19, 2004 10:06 AM | | Not like D8 and the other moron he's trading mindless quips with (whatever name he's posting under now), because they're meanies. And they're nuts. You're nice. But still nuts.
Just out of curiousity, if Jesus was so powerful, why would he need you and all these other people to proclaim it? Wouldn't he just take care of things ... you know ... in his Godly way? BTW, have you seen Earnest Angley lately? If these are the people that are proclaiming Jesus as God, I'm shopping elsewhere. |
|  How far back does mohamed go compared to jesus? | DeeEight Jan 19, 2004 11:29 AM | | I seem to recall mohamed's last sermon/prophecy before his death being something about there being no valid religions after his, and no other gods than Allah. Which basically explains why there's been a few centuries of muslims not getting along with christians. |
|  Maybe an old Nicolai frame | dinkus Jan 19, 2004 11:41 AM | | They make some strange looking frames.
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|  I think it is an old buell Schwinn prototype
| rock crusher Jan 23, 2004 8:43 AM | | Back in the olde days, schwinn had a new fully suspension mtb that they design with imput from american motorcycle designer Buell. I had a down tube mounted pull shock with a traditional diamond front section and a small stubby rear triangle.
Maybe Schwinn right before the old chapter 11 was experimenting with the buell design for a new DH frame that wasn't just the GT design. Seems to share alot of traits with the old Buells and what with the nice alu design and fabrication seems to be a larger company.
Definitely not a nicolai, they up until very recently have never made a push type design like this.
just my 2 cents. |
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