|   Psylo Race good for extreme dual and big drops ? | Limpz
Oct 22, 2001 7:20 AM | | Im wondering if the 01 psylo race is good enough for extreme hardcore urban,dirt,dual and drops ???
We´re talking drops at 2-3 meters..
/ Limpz |
| Nope.... | Ventanarama
Oct 22, 2001 8:33 AM | | It's really not built for that. You should probably be looking at dual-crown forks if you're doing that kind of stuff. If you do want single crown then look at the Marzocchi Z1 FR QR-20, & Marz Dirt Jumper 1, both have 20mm axle. Or Fox Vanilla 125mm and Marz DJ2 for regular axle forks.
Larry Mettler
www.mtnhighcyclery.com |
| A lot of pro dual racers use... | AZ X-Racer
Oct 22, 2001 11:35 AM | | the Psylo SL. Like Eric Carter, Mike King and Scott Beaumont. And those guys fly pretty damned high... |
| They also get their fork for free....... | Gutty
Oct 22, 2001 12:45 PM | | so it doesn't matter so much if they break them. Plus they can have them modified to suite their needs. |
| But have we seen them break... | TNC
Oct 22, 2001 4:02 PM | | under those riders? I don't know...even these guys can only go so far with lousy equipment. |
| Yeah...when they get paid to ride a Psylo SL...nm | Markv
Oct 22, 2001 12:52 PM | | nm |
| Yeah...when they get paid to ride a Psylo SL...nm | GT@Rider
Oct 22, 2001 4:52 PM | | what are you guys talking about!!
i agree that pro get paid to use products, but the PSYLO SL is a damn good fork!
plush, REALLY adjustable, and no bushing chatter!
Psylos rock!! |
| Yeah...when they get paid to ride a Psylo SL...nm | AZ X-Racer
Oct 22, 2001 8:46 PM | | Some people just make me laugh... I was trying to be nice about this one at first, but dual slalom and free-riding was EXACTLY what the Psylo line was created for. It's not an accident that experts and pros use them--sponsored or not. You people forget so easily that pros like Lopes and Dave Cullinan who jump higher and farther than just about anyone out there started out on Judys, Manitou EFC's(oooh-shiver-flexy...)and worse. I have an "ancient" pic of Lopes in an old MBA mag on a training ride when he was riding for Mongoose doing an absolutely massive jump--easily 15-20 feet off the ground--which some of you may remember and he is riding a Mongoose hardtail with a yellow Judy SL fork with only 63mm of travel.
The technology has gotten so much better than that over the years that we've forgotten what it was like not to have it and that the older equipment used to take quite a beating before it died. Here's a picture of Lopes this summer winning the Dual World Championships on that oh-so-weak Psylo Race: |
| Quoting from Rockshox.com | Dougal
Oct 22, 2001 8:51 PM | | Sounds like you just read the website then spurt it all back.
Do you know why RS is advertising the 02 forks with no chatter? Because the 01 forks were loose and sloppy.
The 02 Psylo that I've seen had pretty tight bushings, it'll take while to wear inand won't be plush for a few weeks at best.
Dougal.8m.com |
| Pro racers | Dougal
Oct 22, 2001 8:54 PM | | Really when was the last time a pro racer broke anything?
These guys are pros because they're soo good and smooth, they pull of big air, make it look easy and are really light on their equipment.
Go and try half of the stuff they do and you'll be bending and breaking stuff left right and centre.
Dougal.8m.com |
| Pro racers | AZ X-Racer
Oct 22, 2001 9:24 PM | | That's partly my point. These are some of the best riders in the world--and some of the strongest. Wade Boots, Brian Lopes, Steve Peat--some of those guys are pretty big and heavy and they don't have any run dual crown forks all the time.
That said, pros DO break stuff. That's part of the reason tech for "freeriding" and downhill has gone in the direction it has--and part of the reason companies like Marzocchi have done so well. People wanted stiffer, more bombproof equipment. That bushing thing was just a design flaw---and I'll bet you that all the pros are running the new bushings in their forks. They're probably the ones who asked for them in the first place...hmmm... Actual R&D in the field? Naahh... Why do that. ;o)
If I was the one that you were saying was spouting words from a Rockshox add, you could be right. I don't know. All I know is that almost all shock technology these days trickles down from the pro and expert testing ranks. We usually don't see it until it's been on their bikes anywhere from 3 months to sometimes up to two years. And yeah--I'll stand by the fact that the Psylo was made for exactly what I said before. I ride a Manitou Mars-1 for XC by the way (decent fork)--just so you know I'm no biased. |
| Pro racers | AZ X-Racer
Oct 22, 2001 9:32 PM | | All being said--I wouldn't use a dual air fork for 10' drops in a concrete jungle--one of the reasons I suggested the SL instead of the Race in the first place... |
| Pro racers | Dougal
Oct 22, 2001 10:36 PM | | I was actually bashing GT rider for quoting from the website. |
| A lot of pro dual racers use... | kocky
Oct 23, 2001 9:31 PM | | I'd also like to point out that pro riders have top of the line mechanics checking out their bike before and after every event... Me? I beat a fork for 1 month and oil is streaming down the legs... sure if I had my own mechanic and a pile of free shocks + spare parts & oil, then rockshox would be my first choice too, but for me Marzocchi is the only way to go on my freeride bike... |
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