|   5th element vs. swinger | Low_bias
May 21, 2003 6:36 PM | | So, does anybody know what the pros and cons are of the 5th element air vs. the manitou swinger? The swinger review on the Giant VT was great, and I was thinking of retrofitting it onto a Blur or Heckler, whichever I end up buying. |
| re: 5th element vs. swinger | damion
May 22, 2003 12:51 AM | | They each will work great. I have mounted a 5th Element coil on my Gemini, and the SPV transformed the single pivot bike. Good Luck. |
| Hoping to put a 5th elementr air on my SL... | FritzMan
May 22, 2003 5:22 AM | | From what I've read, the 5th Element is lighter and possibly a little more plush, although frame stiffness is lost with spherical eyelets. See http://www.mountainbike.com/bread/queer/gq_20030407-11308.shtml for a quick write-up |
| Hoping to put a 5th elementr air on my SL... | suspensionguy
May 26, 2003 8:47 PM | | He didn't say frame stiffness was lost, he said "Second, the float in the spherical bearings reduced the rear end stiffness of the bike I was riding a tiny bit." I think what he was saying is that it made the rear end a bit more plush. |
| No real difference other than price tag... | DeeEight
May 25, 2003 2:05 AM | | they both use Curnutt Sr. patented anti-bob valving (the patent is
oddly enough almost 10 years old). I'm a bit surprised Manitou licensed it from Fifth Element (as MBA reported in their review) since last I checked, they don't own the patent, they simply licensed it from Curnutt (who still owns it). |
| No real difference other than price tag... | suspensionguy
May 26, 2003 8:48 PM | | Not true. Roy Turner purchased the patent rights from Curnutt Sr. and brought it to Progressive. Then we licensed the technology to Manitou for their forks (our main objective) and shocks. |
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