|   2004 Manitou Sherman Firefly Weight | MRC
Jan 11, 2004 7:33 PM | | Hi,
Does anyone have measured weights for Manitou Sherman Firefly? The website says 4.9lb but doesn't specify if it's for the TA or regular axle version.
Also, any more ride reports on these things?
cheers,
MRC. |
| Don't have one yet but from my research up to now, ... | Mario
Jan 12, 2004 5:46 AM | | it seems like the 04 Firefly with standard QR would be 4.9lbs and with 20mm TA it would be 5.2lbs. In 03 it was only 4.5 and somebody told me the big difference is with the SPV damper being heavier. I wonder how the travel adjust works and if it is somewhat "locked out" in the low travel setting or if it is rideable...
I'm also hoping for more feedback on them but I guess we need to wait a few more months for that. Stores are just starting to get their 04 bikes and stocks.
Cheers. |
| Don't have one yet but from my research up to now, ... | Crashman
Jan 12, 2004 7:09 AM | | I have the '04 with spv but didn't weigh so I can't answer the weight question however to answer the Rapid Travel II question you are locking the fork down 40mm into its travel so it does become preloaded(firm) unlike the Minute "wind down" feature. |
| Thanks, so it's preloaded, not locked out...? | Mario
Jan 12, 2004 2:34 PM | | It becomes firm but still active? Bottom line there is still 90mm of travel to it so it should feel better than the Marzo ETA that leaves you with only 30mm of travel?
Do you like it up to now? Is it the TA or QR version? If it's the TA, is it a pain to get the wheel out?
Sorry for so many questions, I'm a bit excited because there is not many people that have feedback on this fork yet...
Thanks a lot. |
| Thanks, so it's preloaded, not locked out...? | Crashman
Jan 12, 2004 9:13 PM | | Yes, preloaded but very firm. I have Tuesday off so I will pop off the fork and weigh it for everyone tomorrow on a USPS digital scale and post again. |
| Thanks, so it's preloaded, not locked out...? | Crashman
Jan 12, 2004 9:26 PM | | Yes, preloaded but very firm. I have Tuesday off so I will pop off the fork and weigh it for everyone tomorrow on a USPS digital scale and post again.
"A pain to get the wheel out?", it's the thru axle with four pinch bolts so it is inconvienent however for the added stiffness(i'm a clyde) it is worth it. Since I don't ride off trail I get maybe a flat a year so the point is moot. My first choice during a ride would be to patch the tire so that I wouldn't need to remove the wheel but I do carry a spare tube and the neccesarry allen wrenches just in case. |
| Here is my '04 weight..... | Crashman
Jan 13, 2004 12:56 PM | | Weighed on my local USPS digital scale, two of them actually the one outside and the inside one and the weights matched exactly. 5lbs even with axle included. My fork steerer is cut less than 2" and has the star nut and lower CK headset race. This is a '04 Firefly SPV TA and weight does indlude the axle. |
| Here's an '03 Firefly weight. | TNC
Jan 12, 2004 5:10 PM | | I just bought a Z150 SL to put on an older Big Hit. While I had both forks in hand at the shop, I broke out the digital scale and was quite pleasantly surprised. My '03 Firefly with 20mm TA w/axle was 5 lbs., 5.6 oz. The new Z150 SL was a hair lighter at 5 lbs., 2.4 oz. w/axle. Both forks are 20mm obviously. |
| Are you sure it's a Firefly or maybe your scale is wrong... | Mario
Jan 12, 2004 5:22 PM | | The 03 Firefly was only 4.5lbs in it's standard QR axle. I would be really surprised if it's 5lbs 5.6oz with TA axle. Are you sure it's not the Flick that you have, I think it's basically the same as the Firefly but the spring is not titanium so it's heavier. Well, unless the TA axle is quite a bit heavier than I thought. |
| Absolutely positive on the weight. | TNC
Jan 13, 2004 4:53 PM | | There's no question on the weight. Specifically with an uncut steerer and with the 20mm axle attached. This is an '03 fork. I've serviced the fork, and the Ti spring is in there. That's not bad for such a stout fork. Remember the Z150 SL I compared it too is an air fork with alloy steerer and alloy stanchions--not the coil Z150. |
| Are you sure it's a Firefly or maybe your scale is wrong... | paul5s
Jan 17, 2004 10:56 AM | | Manitou's listed weights are without sterer IIRC or it may have been without oil can't remember which. The 03's where around 1/2lb heavier than the listed weights, so the 04 seems about right.
The Flick also has a steel steerer as well as steel spring, OEM Fireflys don't come with a Ti spring either. |
| Here's an '03 Firefly weight. | CORTINA RIDER
Jan 12, 2004 6:12 PM | | I put them on the scale and the 04 Z150 uncut weights 7.27 pounds while the Sherman Firefly uncut with SPV weights 5.2 pounds. The breakout with SPV weights 5.5 pounds. Zokes are great forks but extremely heavy. Hope this helps |
| I guess you mean 04 Firefly at 5.2lbs? With TA axle or QR? | Mario
Jan 12, 2004 7:14 PM | | You are saying Sherman Firefly uncut with SPV, then that has to be the 2004 because in 03 it did not have the SPV... Also, is your 5.2lbs with the TA axle (axle on or not?) or with the standard QR? Thanks for your info on this. How do you like the Firefly? |
| I guess you mean 04 Firefly at 5.2lbs? With TA axle or QR? | CORTINA RIDER
Jan 13, 2004 7:03 AM | | The firefly is an awesome Fork. The only problem is with the travel adjust. It always seems to stop working every couple months. I have got to the point where I just leave it in 5" mode and it works great 5.2 is with the standard QR.The 20mm would be around 5.4 haven't put that one on the scale.This is the stiffest single crown I have ever ridden(except for my breakout).Hope this helps. |
| It's the coil & all steel Z150 that's heavy. | TNC
Jan 13, 2004 5:01 PM | | The Z150 SL has an alloy steerer and alloy stanchions, and of course, it's an air fork. That's why it's light. |
| the '04 Z150 coil has alloy steerer as well... | Bulldog
Jan 13, 2004 5:53 PM | | ...only the DirtJumpers use steel steerers now, 'cept for maybe some cheap oem forks too. |
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