|   Sugar Pivot bolts | G-Live
Oct 30, 2002 12:12 PM | | What size are year 2000 Sugar B-link pivot bolts? Can I use Alu or do they need to be Ti if I replace? |
| Use Ti..go to a bolt site and learn how to size bolts NM | ^^Dr Evil^^
Oct 30, 2002 3:23 PM | | |
| Dont do it..... | Tim in WI
Oct 30, 2002 5:34 PM | | The Fisher Sugar/Klein Adept/Trek Fuel all use a different thread from normal MTB parts. Bolts are not available from aftermarket for these bikes. The only place you can get these bolts in Ti is direct from Trek, as they make them for the Fuel 100.
The closest thing to the thread is normal big heavy bolts from Fleet Farm. I think it might be a English thread, but I am not sure....
NKT |
| Ti bolt suppliers have all sizes (non bike suppliers) | ^^Dr Evil^^
Oct 30, 2002 6:17 PM | | http://www.unitedtitanium.com/bolts/
http://www.tipro-corp.com/
here are 2 places from a quick search, i am sure there
are many more.
Just because a bike ti bolt supplyer doesn't have them
doesn't mean you cant buy them (it bay be easyer from trek)
Ebay has Ti bolts all the time were you can buy a huge
bag of them for what a few would cost Thur normal channels, and often there aircraft grade too with certificates.
The number of places to buy Ti bolts is growing. |
| he's not taking about sizes.................................. | bogart
Oct 30, 2002 7:28 PM | | or can't you read. it's called thread pitch. |
| So a inch thread is not a diffrent size than a mm thread OK nm | ^^Dr Evil^^
Oct 30, 2002 7:49 PM | | |
| nope.........that's pitch | bogart
Oct 30, 2002 8:22 PM | | |
| Then why does this site say" we have metric sizes also" | ^^Dr Evil^^
Oct 30, 2002 8:35 PM | | http://www.unitedtitanium.com/bolts/
Then why does this site say " we have metric sizes also"
A inch bolt and a metric bolt is different diameter and different thread pitch, even a different inch thread pitch in a English bolt is a different size bolt.
SO THERE DIFFRENT SIZES |
| ever heard of SAE and USS........................ | bogart
Oct 30, 2002 8:39 PM | | same size bolt, different threads.
you know didn't you say you've built "twenty" cars or something like that. why do i get the idea you've never really done it. also, i still don't think you own a bike or lance armstrong. |
| Most american cars use SAE thread bits... | DeeEight
Oct 30, 2002 9:02 PM | | while most imports (euro, asian) use metric thread bits. Evil may very
well have built 20 cars. If he's getting the bolts out of the GM or
Ford parts catalog they're obviously going to be the RIGHT ones for
the cars he's building. |
| i think the point is | bogart
Oct 30, 2002 9:18 PM | | he thought that different threads were also different sizes. not necessarily so. fine and coarse are available in the same size.
your correct in that sae (fine) is a lot more common now.
my other comment is just an observation reinforcing my opinion that evil doesn't really know anything except what he reads.
no bike, no lance, no race cars. |
| i think the point is you've been bogarting the bong | ^^Dr Evil^^
Oct 30, 2002 10:06 PM | | You said a metric and inch is the same size and only the thread pitch is different, and your flat out wrong there different diameter, thread pitch and length in standard sizes.
and yes there are standards like sae and others, plus there are custom pitches that can be made to, on a lath you can make any pitch you want, and i am sure bolt companys are ask to make custom sizes all the time.
a bolt with a diffrent thread pitch is a diffrent size when you are being general like i was with you when you said metic and english are the same size and only the pitch is diffrent.
pass the bong along, stop bogarting it so much. |
| you can't read can you...................... | bogart
Oct 31, 2002 5:15 AM | | so between USS and SAE, which one of those is metric?
oh yeah, stick the bong in your butt |
| Bogart, I hate to do this. But shut up already, Evil was right | DeeEight
Oct 31, 2002 7:44 AM | | in his initial statement that any good specialty bolt supplier would
be able to handle the requirement of finding the right thread. He was
also correct in stating the person looking for the Ti bolts should learn how to determine the correct size bolts he needs and then order
that size. You and Tim just wanted to nitpick and badger Evil. |
| ok........nm | bogart
Oct 31, 2002 9:03 AM | | |
| Trek isn't going to use an oddball pitch so just cause its. | DeeEight
Oct 30, 2002 9:00 PM | | not a metric thread as most bikes use doesn't mean that Dr.Evil's off
his rocker. They make SAE thread Ti bolts also ya know! |
| I replaced mine with Ti off the shelf - Tim is wrong | DJS
Oct 31, 2002 5:01 AM | | I used alum for the lower two, ti for the top. Also Ti bolt and nut for the forward shock mount. All of it was standard off the shelf Metric stuff. |
| Do you remember what sizes? | G-Live
Oct 31, 2002 6:09 AM | | I won't be taking the bike apart for a couple of weeks...I am having a disc tab added to the rear drop out. But would like to have the bolts ordered and back for the rebuild. If you remember what sizes that would be great!
Thanks |
| As he so often is... point here is he and Bogart just wanted to | DeeEight
Oct 31, 2002 7:45 AM | | whine about Dr.Evil in some way, as it seems to be there new hobby in here. |
| Hey, whoah | Tim in Wi
Oct 31, 2002 8:16 AM | | All I was saying is dont go to SRP-USA or Racebolts and order M8x15mm bolts. If you follow their "bolt measuring guide", you might just order that. Almost all bike bolts are in the same thread pitch, and these are not.
I am sure that folks out there that make Ti bolts for cars make this thread pitch. Thats a no-brainer, but I think that if someone is asking this question, they wouldnt know enough not to buy the metric thread.
I was just warning the guy that its a different pitch than normal MTB stuff.... and I like picking on the good Dr.
NKT |
| and all i tried to point out.... | bogart
Oct 31, 2002 10:30 AM | | was the different thread pitches ain't the same thing as different "size" |
| D8 on the GM fastener issue. | TNC
Oct 31, 2002 8:55 AM | | I just bring this up as a matter of technical curiosity and correctness. Actually a fair amount of GM fasteners have been metric for some time now. I have an '88 S-10 pickup and an '89 full-size GMC Jimmy, and I've had them down to the bare chassis over the years. There's a gawdawful mix of SAE and metric fasteners in the drivetrain, body, and chassis. You have to be aware of this when replacing components. I don't know if this stems from GM's long-time connection with Mexico and Canada for out-sourcing or what, but it's a pain sometime. No big deal in the big scheme of life, but it does exist. I'd wish they'd just adopt a standard for the whole vehicle. |
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