|   Fly-Sports has raised the price on the crank..... | VT Mike
Oct 30, 2002 9:54 PM | | that they aren't making.
http://www.fly-sports.com/products/cranks.html
gone from $450 to $540 |
| They can't find enough suckers or what | ^^Dr Evil^^
Oct 30, 2002 10:14 PM | | guess they can't get enough people (suckers)to fund there company to make a order so they raised the price.
rasing the price should chase away all but the biggest of suckers.
But hey a sucker is a sucker so you might as well ask for more money.
What happens if they break and they need to replace a bunch of them, |
| re: They can't find enough suckers or what | Dr AssClown
Oct 31, 2002 8:18 PM | | Hey Doctor Nutsack, you should read the very cool additions to the 20mm axle thread below...
Such an Assclown. |
| Allright already! This is getting ridiculous... | SgtKarj
Oct 31, 2002 9:15 PM | | ...seriously people!
Some of you guys are starting to make yourselves look pretty childish by continuing to attack the Doc. Don't get me wrong - I'm not his biggest fan or anything, but looking back down his recent posts, the only recent thing he's done is tease B4Me for getting that 20mm hub issue wrong and it was just that - a harmless chide.
Regarding the Fly Sports creditcardware...as much as I'd love a set of those hypothetical cranks, I'm starting to think the Doc is right about them.
Kinda sad, isn't it?
Peace,
SK |
| Yep..ease off the Doc. He has been on good behavior lately | DIRT BOY
Nov 1, 2002 5:10 AM | | and the board is getting back "Saving Weight" and bikes!
SK and others are right. He is not flaming, so don't get him started.
DIRT BOY |
| Yeah! Go away buddy! | Patchito
Nov 1, 2002 3:54 PM | | The doctor of mulletude's been pretty mellow lately. You have nothing to say. You were following me around for a while under the handle "Patchito the Git" and showed you had absolutely no wit, so give it up already and get lost. |
| Interesting article in Racecar Engineering .... | farmer rick
Oct 30, 2002 11:27 PM | | back in April's issue. It had an interview with John Barnard, ex McLaren and Ferrari designer, now head of his own (formerly Ferrari's) materials design/development company, mainly specialising in titanium and composites. Unfortunately I don't have a (flat bed) scanner, so will just throw in some quotes;
"Chapman [at Lotus] in the early 1980s fabricated a lot of suspension components in titanium. They didn't take the correct precautions in welding and they immediately started to have problems with cracking. They abandoned using it straight away and decided that titanium was not suitable for fabricated parts. We all continued to use it for machined components though."
"Titanium is very useful in a lot of areas, but there are some situations where it is inappropriate. It is effectively half as stiff as steel and its a little under half the weight. Sometimes that works for you, sometimes it doesn't. If you're making torsion bars, its unlikely you'll make them lighter in titanium."
"In nineteen ninety three/four we started making uprights from titanium. This was after we had done some extensive work to perfect the welding.We had built purge tanks to exclude oxygen from the the welding operation. By that time we could achieve completely non-contaminated welds".
Now I know a lot of this isn't earth shattering news to a lot of you (particularly regarding the welding problems), but what I'm trying to stress is the problems F1 teams and suppliers (with their massive budgets/brains/expertise ) have with this material, and have only in the last decade began to overcome.
I would tend to be a bit careful with a small scale supplier of welded titanium bike parts.
Quite a few Morati cranks have "let go" on a couple of contributors to this board, and they were from an aerospace certified (albeit Eastern European) company.
Anyway, the rest of the article went into some depth on the casting process they now use for ti, and its applications.
I know a number of you are into motorsports, and if you are into the engineering side of things, both Racecar Engineering, and Racetech (both published in the UK) are invaluable. |
| Interesting. I wonder if they have either on the continent (NM) | ®i© Wi©to®
Nov 3, 2002 2:51 AM | | |
| Should be available...... | farmer rick
Nov 3, 2002 12:59 PM | | Been reading them since I raced karts (a loooong time ago), and still read them even though I haven't been near a race car for 5 years. Virtually every English speaking mechanic/engineer I used to work for/with/against read them.
Bear with me here, my key board is playing up, some of the numbers aren't working.
RACETECH Phone (UK)four,four (0)20 8,four,four,six 2100
http://www.itfl.co.uk/racetech/docs/home.htm
RACECAR ENGINEERING subscriptions (UK)four,four (0) 1,six,22 778778
http://www.racecar-engineering.com
If you contact them, they should be able to put you on to who distributes them in The Netherlands. |
| Should be available...... | ^^Dr Evil^^
Nov 3, 2002 1:39 PM | | Its a decent Mag, if it wasn't so UK centric it might have a wider readership.
Mags are having a hard time, you can get more info on the web and its much more current, reading about stuff that happened 3 months ago just dosn't cut it these days. |
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