|   My Titus RX version 2.0 | scream5204
Apr 11, 2003 7:44 AM | | sorry about the formatting. But here's all the specs. the main differences that I changed were the seatpost which I got yesterday from the use ti post + shim. I gained only 10g or so. the fox fork from the x-fly. and I just couldn't stand 818g scorpion UST tires so I went with Airlites with liquid latex in the them. the bike rides so well and without the knobs like the scorpion, on dry dirt, this thing rolls sooo fast. Also, I'm building up a new bike for my girlfriend out of my old parts and I bought her a new frame. it's a present. I'll post that bike up here when it's done. it'll be a custom powdercoated pink x-small Riddler. haha. later guys.
Category Component Weight (g)
Frame 2003 Med Titus Racer-X Ano Blue w/ Al Rocker & Ti Shock/Pivot Bolts (No Brake Bosses) 2273
Frame (misc.) Generic Ti Water Bottle Bolts (2 ct.) 2
Frame (Rear Shock) Fox Float RL Rear Shock 224
Fork Fox Forx F80 RLT 195mm Steerer with 9g Starnut (No Brake Bosses) 1556
Saddle Selle Italia SLR (Ti Rails) 140
Seat Collar Extralite "The Clamp" 34.9mm (fits 31.6mm post) 14
Seatpost Thomson Elite Setback 31.6mm 367mm Black with Ti Bolts (-4g) 212
Derailleur (Front) XTR FD-M960 1 3/8" w/ Ti Clamp & Cable Bolt 132
Derailleur (Rear) SRAM X.O. Long Cage 210
Cassette XT CS-M952 (12-34) (23,26,30,34T Are Ti) 227
Cassette (misc.) XT CS-M952 12-Tooth Lockring 5
Brake Levers Magura Marta SL (Carbon Fiber Lever) (68g Each Lever) Ti Hardware 136
Brake (Front) Magura Marta SL (Hayes Rotor: 114g) (Caliper and Pad: 90g) (Bolts: 16g) Ti Caliper Bolts 221
Brake (Rear) Magura Marta SL (Hayes Rotor: 113g) (Caliper and Pad: 90g) (Bolts: 16g) Ti Caliper Bolts 218
Headset Chris King Ti Headset 1 1/8" (Ti Crown Race, Ti Stem Cap Bolt, Salsa Stem Cap @ 7g) 113
Stem Seven Stem 120mm x 15 Degree Rise (3 Ti Bolts) 136
Stem (misc.) Seven Cycles Titanium Spacer 20 mm 13
Pedals Speedplay Frogs Ti (pair) 214
Bottom Bracket XTR FC-M960 0
Crankset XTR FC-M960 with Bottom Braket and 2 Ti Bolts for Non-Drive Side Crank Arm 629
Chainring (Outer) XTR FC-M960 44T 71
Chainring (Middle) XTR FC-M960 32T 41
Chainring Bolts XTR FC-M960 (16 Aluminum Pieces 14g) 14
Chain Wipperman ConneX Stainless Steel 9X1 (111 Links) 290
Chain (misc.) Lizard Skin Chainstay Protector (Jumbo) 20
Shifters SRAM X.O. Shifters 182
Handlebar Titec 118 Bar 22" 555mm 3 Degree Sweep (w/ Plastic Shim) 132
Grips Crank Bros. (Cut Down To 2.75" Each Side) (w/ End Plugs) 44
Cables (Brake) Magura Hydraulic Hose ("disc-tube" type) (Front: 39g) (Rear: 63g) 102
Cables (Shifter) Gore Ultralight Ride-On Cable Set (Shifter) 60
Skewers (Front) Salsa Flip-off Ti (Black) 40
Skewers (Rear) Salsa Flip-off Ti (Blue) 43
Tire (Front) Hutchinson Python Airlite 2.0 500
Tire (Rear) Hutchinson Python Airlite 2.0 500
Miscellaneous Problem Solvers Disc Brake Hose Guides, Zip-ties. 30
Wheel (Front) Mavic Crossmax Disc SL (776g) 776
Rim (Front) Maivc UST ISM Milled, Silver Anodized Maxtal SUP Welded Rim, Fore Drilling
Hub (Front) Mavic Disc Front Hub
Spokes (Front) Mavic 24 Profiled Zicral Straight Pull Spokes (2X)
Nipples (Front) Mavic Integrated Aluminum Nipples
Rim Strip (Front) N/A
Wheel (Rear) Mavic Crossmax Disc SL (920g) 920
Rim (Rear) Maivc UST ISM Milled, Silver Anodized Maxtal SUP Welded Rim, Fore Drilling
Hub (Rear) Mavic Integrated Free Wheel Rear Hub With FTS-L System
Spokes (Rear) Mavic 24 Profiled Zicral Straight Pull Spokes (2x)
Nipples (Rear) Mavic Integrated Aluminum Nipples
Rim Strip (Rear) N/A
Total 10440
Total Weight in lbs. 23.01626017 |
| Very nice! I may have to bow down to this one :) | KMan
Apr 11, 2003 8:34 AM | | Nice component selection, What are your thoughts on the FOX fork? I think it is a match made in heaven for the Racer X. I suggest anyone with one should definately match this fork up with the frame. I bit heavy for a race fork, but the ride definately makes up for the weight penality.
KMan |
| fox... | scream5204
Apr 11, 2003 9:07 AM | | Man, I LOVE THE FOX. I just can't belive Fox can produce such a stiff and plush fork. AFter having this fork for a week, you like at any other fork and their small fork legs, you'll think they' puny. haha. Like I said before, I love how fox matches their front and rears up. talas front/rear, Vanilla front/rear, RL(RLT,RLC) front/rear, F80X front Brain rear. They're made for eacother. why have two different shock companies on the same frame!? haha. It's aweswome, plain and simple. it's not that bad for a race fork. my bike is at 23 pounds even and feels 50/50 when you pick it up. that's what the goal for me is when I build up a bike. 50/50 weight distribution. |
| why are you using hayes rotors on marta sl's? (nm) | VT Mike
Apr 11, 2003 8:41 AM | | |
| 7g more for hayes rotors.... | scream5204
Apr 11, 2003 9:08 AM | | each, and I swear they really do brake better. I feel like the pad really grabs the hayes rotor better. I dno't know why...perhaps more surface area is hitting the pad? kinda interesting. |
| Could you be a little more specific? | pedalAZ
Apr 11, 2003 8:58 AM | | Just kidding. Nice build. You better give us a ride report!
Do you have an aversion to carbon parts (e.g., seatpost, handlebar)? Just curious. |
| haha, being specific helps everyone out.... | scream5204
Apr 11, 2003 9:22 AM | | if anyone ever wanted to ask questions. It also helps me out when I try to remember bb sizes, fD size, what and where I got certain things for. I have 3 more columns I left out that included my cost, MSRP, and what country the part originated. I like glancing at the spread sheet and seeeing that my bike is a culmination of parts from 5 different countries and all over the US. I believe that carbon fabrication is perfect for road bikes, and titanium fabrication is perfect for mountain. I just don't like carbon as much as I like ti. haha. I'm genereally a ti freak. I would've gotten the ti-racerx but I just couldn't justify 600 more just for a ti front triangle; the rear is always aluminum on a Racer-x. |
| Hey Scream......... | tankhead10
Apr 11, 2003 9:06 AM | | How tall are you? Also do you know the length of the crankbolt to the top of your SLR saddle over the clamp? And finally what is your inseam length? Oh one more, Do you know if the top tube length that Tius advertises is effective top tube or actual top tube length? tanks alot! :) <<<<>>>>> |
| hmm.... | scream5204
Apr 11, 2003 9:29 AM | | I'm right at 5'10", the length I just measured from the crank bolt area to the top of the slr is right under 30 inches. my inseam length is 31-32 ish. the top tube length on a stock med racer-x is 23.25 inches. which is from the center of the seat tube to the center of the head tube. I hope this helps. |
| tanks bro..... | tankhead10
Apr 11, 2003 9:37 AM | | I wonder what that makes the effective top tube length. My Airborne Lucky Strike has an effective top tube of 23.7 inches and I use a 120mm stem. If this turns out to be OK I might not need to get the ti version. I want the frame to fit me. I think the large will be too big. tanks again |
| no problem... | scream5204
Apr 11, 2003 9:39 AM | | I just couldn't justify the 600 extra for a ti FRONT TRIANGLE you know what I mean? better to get a med and slightly longer stem than it is to get a frame that's too big. it's annoying, trust me. plus, the medium is lighter :-) haha. later |
| Tankhead10 | KMan
Apr 11, 2003 9:50 AM | | I sent you an email this morning with some info....
What is your size? Height, weight, inseam, short/average/long torso?
KMan |
| Got it and responded to it nm | tankhead10
Apr 11, 2003 11:08 AM | | |
| tanks bro..... | VT Mike
Apr 11, 2003 10:12 AM | | |
| woops.... | VT Mike
Apr 11, 2003 10:17 AM | | hit "enter" instead of "shift".
I think effective top tube length is used on frames with top tubes that slope a lot for extra standover. It's just a measurement of how long the top tube would be if it didn't slope so much. I'm not sure about this, but it does make sense. |
| re: My Titus RX version 2.0 | suosa
Apr 11, 2003 9:14 AM | | Sweet bike, how do non UST tires with latex & no strip compare to UST tires? |
| here's my 2cents...... | scream5204
Apr 11, 2003 9:37 AM | | The main difference between traditional UST tires and regular tubed tires is that the sidewalls on the UST tires are a lot thicker so that air can't get out. that's what the liquid latex does to regular tires, it seals up the tiny holes on the sidewalls. with that said, you can save a ton of weight by sealing regular tires. here's the most important part. if you're going to do this, choose a relatively light tire, don't go for fast freds or anything like that. I've already been there and done that, yes, it works, but not well at all. The sidewalls on the fast freds are like cloth and therefore, from the start, a lot harder to seal than others. Once you seal them up and start riding you can tell that the sidewalls are too thin and therefore, when you jump stuff, the sidewalls start to give in if you don't put enough pressure in them. UST is so that you can run low pressure. you simply can't run low pressure on a Fast fred and still keep the structural integrity of the tire. that tire requires a tube inside to help support the sidewalls. Phew, okay with that said, go with the python airlites, they're great with liquid latex. just about any tire is perfect except super light tires, stay away from those. hope this helps, ask more questions if you need to. I've sealed up my airlites with stan's liquid latex and they kept air pressure with very minimal leaking for a week +. |
| Miss... | Batas
Apr 11, 2003 10:16 AM | | the latex weight. |
| I added that into the python weights.... | scream5204
Apr 11, 2003 2:55 PM | | normal plain python airlites are around 480g. I put 500 grams into the weight of each tire. so plus 20g for each tire for liquid latex. I have a digital scale and when I weigh the whole bike, it reads 21.0 pounds. all my weights should be dead on. I also have this place where I added 30g of basically nothing...as a buffer. that included electrical tape here and there and zipties..all those don't come close to 30g but I just put it in there as a buffer. I'd much rather have it a little over than a little under than it should be.it's more realistic that way. |
| Only 20gr of... | Batas
Apr 12, 2003 1:07 AM | | latex for each tire? And it seals ok? It seems to be not much... |
| I guess it could be more... | scream5204
Apr 12, 2003 1:52 PM | | but then again, I checked my digital scale out and it reads 21.0 pounds just like my spread sheet adds up to. |
| HMMM...2273g for a MED RX frame, ANO????? NOT! | TomFL
Apr 11, 2003 1:07 PM | | Hate to bring it up, but my '03 SMALL, POLISHED RX frame with TI hardware and AL bolt on shock bolt weighs 2440g. And it's disk specific.
AZ X has his small polished disk-specific frame listed as 2500g even.
Both are close enough to be +/- production tolerances.
Yours is listed as 2273g, for a Med, and it's ANO.
What gives?
It's a beauty nonetheless.
-T |
| He lists the rear shock as a separate item (nm) | MattK
Apr 11, 2003 1:18 PM | | |
| Un-NOT! Frame + shock = 2497 | JAG
Apr 11, 2003 1:20 PM | | All he did was seperate the shock and frame. Although as Bata has mentioned he is still missing tubes or liquid sealant for the tires.
None the less a very nice ride.
Jag |
| you got it.... | scream5204
Apr 11, 2003 3:00 PM | | it's 2497 with the rear shock. I only lost around 30g with that special aluminum/ti bolt kit. It was fun changing out the bolts though. haha, may be not for 75 bucks though. about the tubes, there are none. I made my own UST tires with python airlites and as i wrote in the other post is just added about 20g to the tires to adjust for the liquid latex. c'mon guys, you honestly didn't think someone that listed such specifics would forget anything would you? haha. |
| DOH! I'll take a speed reading course this weekend, promise... | TomFL
Apr 11, 2003 3:57 PM | | Thought I got hosed on my frame there for a bit...
-T |
| LOL.. Your right. your listings have massive amount of detail nm | JAG
Apr 14, 2003 9:11 AM | | |
| Killer bike | Duckman
Apr 11, 2003 4:59 PM | | Nice parts line up indeed. Light, strong, fast. Perfect. |
| Are the brake lines and fluid included in those brake weights? | wfl3
Apr 12, 2003 5:03 AM | | Just curious because they're lighter than my Martas with aluminum rotors and ti bolts. |
| yes they are... | scream5204
Apr 12, 2003 1:51 PM | | I also have aluminum rotor bolts and mine are marta SL's (carbon fiber levers) I also have ti disc caliper bolts as well as ti lever bolts. |
| I still don't see it..... | wfl3
Apr 13, 2003 4:16 AM | | ...I said aluminum rotors not rotor bolts. My rotors are 55 grams each which is 117 grams lighter than your steel ones. I also have Ti caliper and lever bolts like yours. I have a hard time believing those carbon levers save approx 130 grams (over 1/4 lb) over the aluminum ones - the aluminum levers probably only weigh about 30-40 grams each.
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| okay..... | scream5204
Apr 13, 2003 2:13 PM | | without having to take apart my brakes, I'll just add up everything that I have...
Brake Levers Magura Marta SL (Carbon Fiber Lever) (68g Each Lever) Ti Hardware 136
Brake (Front) Magura Marta SL (Hayes Rotor: 114g) (Caliper and Pad: 90g) (Bolts: 16g) Ti Caliper Bolts 221
Brake (Rear) Magura Marta SL (Hayes Rotor: 113g) (Caliper and Pad: 90g) (Bolts: 16g) Ti Caliper Bolts 218
Cables (Brake) Magura Hydraulic Hose ("disc-tube" type) (Front: 39g) (Rear: 63g) 102
there's your problem, you didn't add everything together. Altogether, EVERYTHING is 677g compared to your 590. I think you just forgot to add my brake cable housing. |
| My bad, didn't see the cable listing further down. Thanx (nm) | wfl3
Apr 14, 2003 1:13 AM | | |
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