|   NEW sub 200g Pedal.... | nino
Oct 16, 2003 9:40 AM | | I just found this ad in the latest issue of german BIKE magazine.sounds and looks very interesting...
too bad the link won't work!
www.speedclip.com
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| A logical design evolution, | pedalAZ
Oct 16, 2003 10:31 AM | | kind of like a 2 sided Eggbeater. Any idea about availability and pricing? |
| Do you rekon they're the same axles as triple ti's? | Gaz
Oct 16, 2003 11:48 AM | | |
| could be. they are also pretty long... | nino
Oct 16, 2003 1:25 PM | | as the Triple-Tis also have those excessively long axles.too bad - the Q-factor suffers big time. |
| Yes, the Eggbeaters are way too wide. | LOGIC MAN
Oct 16, 2003 2:12 PM | | That and the fact that the disengagement point on eggbeaters is too wide. Even on the narrower setting. On top of all that, the cleats have no lateral adjustment! Way too wide and slow to get out of. This coming from a long time SPD user. I suppose you could get used to it. |
| What kind of distance are we talking about? | Feideaux
Oct 16, 2003 3:05 PM | | The excessive Q-factor on the Eggs is something that worries me, as I would like a pair. I've heard others say that there no difference at all, and the narrow spindle creates something akin to an optical illusion, making it look like they are a long way out.
Do you know the actual distance in mm over other pedals?
My knees are very sensitive to things like that. I used to use a 107mm square taper spindle to alleviate the problem. I'm using Time Carbons at the moment, and even though the lateral float inherent to this design positions my feet on the outer, the Strongarm II cranks they are bolted to compensate for this as they are a little narrower than normal.
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| I have never measured the actual distance. | LOGIC MAN
Oct 16, 2003 3:14 PM | | And it could very well be that the pedal is an illusion and is no wider like you say. Although I think it is. The thing that gets you though is that the cleat has no lateral adjustment range. So when I tested a pair out thats the first thing I noticed. And then when looking down I could see a big gap between the inside of my foot and the crank arm, where normally its real close.
Most people probably wouldnt notice this difference. But narrower is better and if you have spent a lot of time on a bike you will feel it.
The other thing that got me was the fact that you really had to twist your foot out to release. I mean a few times I almost didnt get out in time on real technical stuff. Scary.
I have also heard rumors of the bottom of the pedal catching on roots and opening the cleat retention arms and in turn releasing your foot.
Another thing was the fact that they had no platform to ride on if you happento be unclipped in a technical situation. They just roll you right off. Theyre SLICK in the wet too. No good.
And lastly the pedals had lots of early bearing problems and would just come right off the axle mid ride. I think they have fixed this though.....
Definitly enough negatives to keep me on the good old standby SPDs. Stay with the narrow Q factor and produce more horsepower. |
| Gotta disagree with some of those... | jcw
Oct 16, 2003 6:36 PM | | I've been riding the Ti version (single not triple) since April and I think overall they're the best pedals I've tried. Once broken in they're super easy to get in and out of. Initially I had some instances where I found it difficult to engage the cleat, which was bothersome, but I never had any difficulty at all releasing.
Also, much to my suprise, the pedal is remarkably stable when riding unclipped through technical stuff. Of course it's not something I do on purpose, but in many, many instances I have never had my foot roll off. I fully expected that to be a problem given the design, but it hasn't been. I will add that it's very dry where I ride, and it might be more of a problem when you introduce water into the equation.
As for getting ejected when the pedal hits rocks or logs, yeah that happens, and it's annoying when it happens, but it doesn't happen very often. But then I'm also very aware of my pedal clearance and try to avoid banging my pedals when it can be avoided.
The eggs aren't perfect, but as far as I know, no pedal is. Overall I think they are a great, lightweight, easy entry - easy release in any conditions xc pedal. |
| 56 mm... | Boj
Oct 16, 2003 6:40 PM | | Measured from the edge of the thread which goes into the crank (visible outside pedal/crank interface) to the centerline of the hoops that hold the cleat.
Don't know if this is a lot/little but I do seem to ride them with my feet pointing outward. However I have loved the eggs ever since I got them. Had low end SPDs and Eggs are way easier to release and won't let go when pedalling. |
| Those look a whole lot like the... | jcw
Oct 16, 2003 6:41 PM | | new Wellgo's I saw at interbike. I believe they said that the fully ti wellgo model would be selling in the $240 range. Pretty good considering the $400 tag on the triple ti eggs. |
| btw... | jcw
Oct 16, 2003 6:46 PM | | the wellgo's were 98g ea. on their scale. |
| looks like the new ritchey too ...... | stump
Oct 17, 2003 4:17 AM | | and the spindle looks like eggs too.....even the seals :-)) |
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