|   Easton carbonfiber cable housing works great! 3g per 22mm | Tipster
Oct 18, 2003 12:12 AM | | Been testing Easton CF housing it on both mountain bikes and road bikes. Works almost as good as XTR/Dura-Ace housing but at fraction of the weight. |
| 3g per 22mm? Are you sure? | Andystrike10
Oct 18, 2003 3:44 AM | | Per M that does not seem light!
Brake or shifter? |
| hey ! | 20.100 fr
Oct 18, 2003 8:34 AM | | Hello Andy,
Haven't seen you for some times.
How is your strike doing ? Still the same parts as on light-bikes ?
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| You must of missed me! | Andystrike10
Oct 18, 2003 9:43 AM | | I do try to keep track of this Forum, been a little busy the last twelve months. Regarding the Strike, still basically the same. Its only really had 8 months real(ahem) use. Changed over to Shimano XTR shifters and rear mech, I'm in the process of converting a Dura Ace rear mech to Rapid rise and looking at ways to shift some weight from the cables.
Just fitted a FRM ISIS BB and a Extralite 'the head', nothing wrong with the Race Face stuff. I'm just aiming for sub 19lbs, but still retaining the 100mm Marzocchi's and disc's.
Swing arm bearings have been changed, all the bearings in the wheels have been changed under warranty (Tune hubs). Discs have been changed from Formula's to hope's and now back to Formula's, stem, handle bars peddles etc.
Should be done by early next year, thinking of changing name to AndyMoneyPit10!
The bike is superb, Strikes are good, but a 20lb Strike is electric!! |
| 3g per 22mm = 136g per meter = very very very very heavy! | DavidG
Oct 18, 2003 6:46 AM | | I think maybe you meant to say that the Easton carbon housing weighs 3 grams per 22 CENTImeters, not millimeters. This works out to 14g per meter, which is indeed very light. In fact it may be the lightest housing out there, except perhaps the Gleitec housing which is about the same weight but is pretty crappy quality-wise.
Here are some other light-weight cable housing weights, for comparison:
* Tune Plastic (5mm) (shift/brake) = 18g per meter
* Tune Plastic (6mm) (shift/brake) = 27g/m
* Tune Aluminium (shift/brake) = 32g/m
* Shimano standard (shift) = 33g/m
* Shimano standard (brake) = 61g/m
* Shimano XTR (brake) = 59g/m
DavidG |
| BTW, where can one buy the Easton CF housing? | DavidG
Oct 18, 2003 6:57 AM | | And how much does it cost?
I checked the Easton website but with no luck.
DavidG |
| Strike cable runs. | Andystrike10
Oct 18, 2003 10:38 AM | | Hi David,
Thought you might be interested in what I have planned for my Strikes cable runs, only shifters. I find the continuous outer or as Scott call it "Sealed Cable Routing" SCR, is frankly, crap!
It only takes a minute to pop the cables out of my Marin and lube them and then pop them back in, with the Scott the only way of doing it is to disconnect it from the mech and drag it back through, a right pain in the arse. As you will know continuous outer is not light either!
I have 2 plans, firstly, I am going to drill my swing arm and pass the inner through it, yes honestly! I have also got some alloy tube about the same diameter as a Biro pen inner, this will be used to join the top and bottom hose/cable clamps together on the main frame with the inner passing through the middle.
I will use a Lumiweld kit (low temp alloy brazing) to weld Nokon segments into into either end of the swing arm and also the cable clips of the main frame to locate and stop the outer, I currently have Nokon cables fitted and find them very untidy. This will tidy up the cables, give access to lubing and shed some weight!
My second plan is to use MIG welder 'wire liner', it comes in several sorts, the ones for Hobby MIG welders is ideal as these normally only use 0.6 or 0.8mm wire, shifter cable fits just right! Also they come in different materials, two of which are Plastic and Teflon ( I assume its Teflon impregnated ), the plastic is black and the Teflon is red, unfortunately! A 2.5m lenth of Teflon cost about £8.00 in UK, and weighs 20g per Metre. Its external diameter is about 4mm and its very flexible, I can bend it double, into approx 15mm radius without it kinking, however it is not reinfoced.
Of course this all sounds slightly mad, but then I never dreamed I'd be riding around with no inner tubes and just Latex in my tyres instead! |
| Sounds mighty interesting, Andy! | DavidG
Oct 18, 2003 3:10 PM | | I agree that the long cable housing runs on the Strike are a bummer and therefore kudos to you for coming up with such a creative solution. However may I add that it seems you're using a howitzer to kill a fly... Maybe you just want to fire up your DIY welder and you were looking for an excuse to get some welding done? ;-)
I would love to see photos of the parts you mention and the work you do. If you're up to it, please take a minute to post some images here or email them to me at dglassman@bezeqint.net.
BTW, what length of shifter housing -- and how much weight -- do you think you'll be saving with this setup? For the long shifter housing run (which on my Strike consists of a single piece of housing 149cm long) I'm using standard Shimano housing which weighs 33g/m and therefore 49g for the run.
BTW #2, I remember once seeing an accessory that essentially is an add-on valve opening that fits onto lengthy housing runs, thus allowing one to lube an inner cable without having to disconnect the inner cable at one of the ends of the housing. You may want to look into this as it may offer a more straightforward solution to your problem.
Lastly, be aware that if you let the bare inner cable come into contact with the frame or swingarm, it will create a resonating 'ding' that after a while will drive you crazy. This is especially true of the sounds that will emanate from your Scott's carbon frame -- on bumpy trails your bike will sound like a badly tuned guitar! So make sure to keep the bare cable away from the frame.
DavidG |
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