|  2004 Norco Team XC Hardtail | I'm Going Hungry Oct 18, 2003 5:52 PM | | Since the 2004 stuff is being posted on most manufactures pages I had a look at the Norco website. I owned a Norco Rampage a few years ago (my first racing bike) but kind of put them out of mind since they went big into freeride/north shore stuff.
I see they are offering a XC hardtail with a carbon composite seat stay that looks intriguing and for $850 CDN for the frame it looks even better.
I'm not sure of the weight of the frame (I have e-mailed Norco to get some specs).
Has anyone ridden a similar setup before (aluminum and carbon frame)? I've seen such a design on road frames but never a mountain bike (but I seem to faintly recall Bianchi had a similar setup once).
Any estimates on the frame weight?
http://www.norco.com/bikes/2004bikes/teamxcht.htm
PS: Before somebody says it No I do not work for Norco or anything like that. I've been posting on this board long enough hopefully not to be accused of that. |
|  wow! great frame..... | stump Oct 18, 2003 6:07 PM | | by the way, the only brand that i remember now that already have alu/carbon stays frames is full dynamix, 04 giant xtc1 will have this combination too. looks sooooo sexy... |
|  wow! great frame..... | stig Oct 19, 2003 8:42 AM | | Full Dynamix among other Euro brands have mixed alu main with carbon rear triangle. The reason behind the mix (aside from marketing jive) is to tune the ride - NOT save weight. The carbon/alu mix is almost heavier than all aluminium - but rides smoother.
You can get the same results from sweet steel frame - but good luck finding something affordable.... |
|  American Eagle, too... | ®i© Wi©to® Oct 20, 2003 12:48 AM | | This year their XC team was using them - it was Easton all the way. Check: www.veltec.com
For 2004 Santos (a Dutch manufacturer) is offereing a carbon-stayed hardtail. It's heavier than the regular SCC03 frames (as is usually the case with carbon stays), but supposedly more comfortable.
At the bike show yesterday Santos also had a 7.3 kg built up bike (Pace rigid, Tune, SRAM, Tiso parts). I'll post a picture if it turns out okay. Saddly the Tiso derailleur didn't shift well - apparently the actuation ratio on the Shimano-compatible version is 1:1.9 rather than 1:20. |
|  Check out the '04 Fuji Mt. Fuji-SL | Swat Dawg '04 Oct 19, 2003 2:29 PM | | It has a carbon stays as well. It is likely the same frame. If you go to specs on that frame and the Mt. Fuji frame just below it, you'll see that the Mt. Fuji SL is actually .1 pounds heavier than the all aluminum frame. I am thinking about getting one as a replacement for my stolen bike, but I think the added price is not worth the added benefit. I will probably run the bike with a suspension seatpost anyway.
www.fujibikes.com/default.asp?yr=2004 |
|  Check out the '04 Fuji Mt. Fuji-SL | I'm Going Hungry Oct 19, 2003 3:08 PM | | It looks like the SL is 3.7 lbs while the all aluminum is 3.5. Not as light as I expected - I guess if I want to go lighter I'll check out a magnesium or scandium frame but only if the price is right (i.e. well below $1000 CDN) |
|  Check out the Salsa Bandito | AZ Steelhead Oct 21, 2003 6:09 AM | | Scandium tubeset and less than $1000 CDN ($632.00 US @ Airbomb).
Not sure about the weight. |
|  Check out the Motobecane FLY Team Frame | xc-baby Oct 22, 2003 10:04 PM | | Check out the Motobecane FLY Team frame
Kinesium Tubeset and $299 US @ Bikesdirect
Sub 3 pounds! |
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