|  Aluminum ain't so bad | BRIK Jun 27, 2002 6:12 AM | | I just picked up a haro ssx aluminum frame from a friend of mine and rode it this morning expecting an extremely harsh ride and it wasn't too bad. Aluminum definitely has a stiffer feel than steel but the thing sure flies up the climbs. I think it is going to make a good race bike. |
|  re: Aluminum ain't so bad | Dan M Jun 27, 2002 6:39 AM | | Are you going to ride on Saturday? I think we'll be meeting at the shop at 8am. I'll let you know later on. I had one of the Haro frames. That is actually a great riding bike. Actually, if you got that frame from Don, that my old frame. For the money, they are hard to beat.
Dan |
|  re: Aluminum ain't so bad | BRIK Jun 27, 2002 7:06 AM | | I did get it from Don, so it is your frame. It does ride really well. I will be there on saturday for sure. Do you know if many people are going up to am cup 2 this sunday? |
|  re: Aluminum ain't so bad | Dan M Jun 27, 2002 7:16 AM | | I believe most of the Team will be going up there. There should be a good turn out because this is also parts of the State series. Have you changes your gearing yet, or are you still running a 32-18T? Did you buy that frame from Don and build it up with all your parts? If you haven't, you should. |
|  re: Aluminum ain't so bad | BRIK Jun 27, 2002 7:34 AM | | I switched over all my parts except for the rear wheel which has a different spacing. I think i am gonna have Tim build me up a King wheelset in a couple weeks, and I am thinking of switching my marzocci for a sid (wise choice?). I am going in to bike empire today to have them put on my rear brake cuz I kinda botched that job and I am going to put a new freewheel on too. What gear ration do you think I should run? 32-16, or 32-17? I know I am strong enough to ween off my 32-18 but i am not sure what I should go to. |
|  for something cheap | the steel-is-real man Jun 27, 2002 7:40 AM | | |
|  re: Aluminum ain't so bad | Dan M Jun 27, 2002 7:50 AM | | The Sid is a sweet fork, but the bomber works well also. I run a 32-17 everywhere. It allows me to sit on climbs where people with 16T have to stand. Most of the guys winning at the National level are pushing a 2to1 ratio, 32-16, 34-17, and making it look easy. Think of it this way... 1 tooth difference in the back equals 11 inches per pedal revolution. If you go 1 tooth smaller, you will travel 11" farther per pedal revolution. Multiply that times how many rev. per minute and your flying on the flats. The down side, uphill! You have to be moving your bike 11 inches farther uphill per rev. to keep the same RPM you had with lower gearing.
Dan |
|  That was fast. Did you get ANY sleep last night??? ;-) (nm) | dgoodisi Jun 27, 2002 10:53 AM | | |
|  That was fast. Did you get ANY sleep last night??? ;-) (nm) | BRIK Jun 27, 2002 11:53 AM | | Lovin' the frame Don, the thing is real fast! |
|  re: Aluminum ain't so bad | MikeGarritson Jun 27, 2002 10:29 PM | | I'm with you on the aluminum (Bianchi CuSS and SC Chameleon SS). It's definitely the way to go for racing because it's so stiff. DanM is right about the 2:1 thing. At Rim Nordic, I pre-rode with 36:18 and did okay, but switched to 36:20 for the initial bit of climbing...big mistake. I didn't feel that I climbed any better and on the moderate climbs, fireroad and descents, I spun out too fast. So, anyway, when I got back home I switched back to 2:1 and modified my training a little. Also bought a bunch of new lite-weight parts...oh yea! |
|  for making aluminum foil | the steel-is-real man Jun 27, 2002 7:38 AM | | |
|  for airplanes | the steel-is-real man Jun 27, 2002 7:36 AM | | |
|  Bike Empire ride? | Billy Jun 28, 2002 12:04 PM | | What is this ride like? I have this Saturday open and was thinking of doing this ride from Bike Empire or going out to Mill Creek Station and doing a new trail up there. Feedback on length of ride and difficulty level? Hilly? Flat? |
|  Bike Empire ride? | BRIK Jun 28, 2002 2:01 PM | | The ride is usually at a fast pace, with DanM and one of the teams geared semi-pro's leading the pack. I have done two rides with them, the first was like 2hrs45min out in the hills of penesquitos, the second ride was shorter ,ut a sycamore canyon, everyone was goin' to big bear to race the next day so the pace was a little slower. Both rides have been real fun though and all the guys are cool, plus you get to ride with one of the best SS'ers out there Mr. Dan Moser, what more can you ask for?
Cheers,
Brian K. |
|  for beer cans | the steel-is-real man Jun 27, 2002 7:36 AM | | |
|  You're an ass. | SageSurfer Jun 27, 2002 7:42 AM | | n-f-m. |
|  for weenies like "Sage Surfer" | the steel-is-real man Jun 27, 2002 7:54 AM | | gheeez. what a name. |
|  re: Aluminum ain't so bad | TwoWheelinTim Jun 27, 2002 12:43 PM | | My wife picked up a Ventana El Toro (ss) extra small aluminum frame at a bike swap for $200. It was only ridden a couple times and is in excellent condition. She makes that little bike fly, it weighs next to nothing and will probably last her lifetime. I'm sure the ride is more harsh than the steel bike I'm riding but she likes it and rides well. Anybody has the right to an opinion, some just choose to be rude about expressing it. As it says on the Team Wrong Way Jersey "Blah, blah, blah, shut up and ride". |
|  please accept my humblest apologies and allow me to explain... | the steel-is-real man Jun 28, 2002 10:49 AM | | ...that in my personal opinion, with all else being equal, and with all due considerations and qualifications, that when compared with steel, aluminum is a soul-less, cheap-ass, feces-eating similacrum turned perverse joke on a mostly mindless consumer by a cold-hearted bicycle industry.
Steel is real; aluminum is just dumb.
Truly yours,
SIR Man |
|  not accepted. | CaveRock Jun 28, 2002 10:57 AM | | Bikes are bikes are bikes. It is the rider that adds the soul. |
|  please accept my humblest apologies and allow me to explain... | BRIK Jun 28, 2002 11:46 AM | | Dear SIR man,
I totally agree with you that a steel bike is a bike with more "soul" and a heck of alot more fun to ride than aluminum but to get a good steel frame nowadays you have to drop alot of cash, so until I can afford a seven or an IF I think I'll stick with my recently acquired haro ssx which by the way kicks some steel ass climbin' up the hills on my local trails
Cheers
Brian |
|  please accept my humblest apologies and allow me to explain... | single & rigid Jun 28, 2002 1:07 PM | | If you want an excellent steel frame you don't need to spend big bucks, just keep your eyes open and check the obvious online sites. You can get some great deals on steel frames this way. I picked up a Yo Eddy that was in perfect condition for a few hundred bucks. |
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