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Setting up a Surly questions....(20 posts)

Setting up a Surly questions....gnew
Nov 13, 2003 5:22 AM
I've decided to take the plunge and go with a single speed mtb, I built up a fixie road bike this summer and love it soooo...After much reading it looks like I'm going to go with the Surly 1x1 over converting my old Stumpjumper...my question is about wheelsets, what do I need and where should I be looking to get them? I don't wheels with Chris King hubs(though that would be nice) so what is a good wheelset for a reasonable price for a single speed?

Another two questions...Bottom bracket size and which cranks?

Thanks for any help...or should I go with the Stumpy and spacers? It is a 1993 steel bike...decisions, decisions
re: Setting up a Surly questions....Sid6.7
Nov 13, 2003 5:43 AM
You can't go wrong with the wheelsets at webcyclery.com I have the surly hubs laced to Mavic X221s and they have been sweet to ride. I'm running a cheapy Shimano Square Taper 113mm BB and using Bontrager cranks. My chainline is dead on.
here's a crank deal!......Fast Freddy
Nov 13, 2003 6:15 AM
Check this out.... http://www.chucksbikes.com/store/indexcr028.htm

Hope that helps!
FF
Only 170mm's though....NmEbo
Nov 13, 2003 10:11 AM
Ah Ha! didn't even notice! (nm)Fast Freddy
Nov 13, 2003 10:46 AM
Thanks!
Got that same email this morning....bummer on the size...(nm)Ebo
Nov 13, 2003 10:49 AM
re: Setting up a Surly questions....SS rif
Nov 13, 2003 6:16 AM
I have to agree. I bought a wheelset from Webcyclery, and they are great. I had Mean Todd build mine with the White Industiries ENO eccentric rear/XT front laced to Rhyno Lite rims (wide rims for Fat tires!), and they have been the toughest wheels I've ever had. Fast service, too. The Surly hubs seem to be a pretty good bargain. The one thing you don't want to skimp on is your wheels, so I'd say go with the best you can afford!

I converted my old Trek, and used the Shimano BB that was in it, and along with an old STX-RC crankset, everything lined up right on when I put it together (don't remember the spindle length, probably a 113).

Before I had the new wheels, I just used the original rear wheel w/freehub, spacers, and a 16 tooth cog from an old cluster. Had problems with chain skip until I put the push-up spring in the singleator. If you can get away with it, that's what I'd recommend ('cause it worked for me!). Have fun!
you'll love the Surlyqtip
Nov 13, 2003 7:10 AM
I built up a Surly this summer as a back up bike and it soon took over as my favorite all around bike. I'm using a 113 bb w/ race face turbines. Chainline seems to be fine, no issues.

For wheelsets...what type of rider are you, are you after a light xc wheelset or something a little more stout?

Hubs...I have Surly, Paul, Phil Wood, and various cassette hubs. If you're not wanting to spend a bunch, just use your cassette hub wheelset and convert it. For ss specific, Surly's are probably the best bang for the buck. Have MeanTodd build you up a set if you go that route.
what kinda tugs are those?bn
Nov 13, 2003 5:35 PM
are 2 necessary?
I'm thinking redlineqtip
Nov 14, 2003 6:30 AM
I can't remember for sure, but I think they are redline. I also recently saw some identical tugs that were marked Diamond Back, so who knows.

No, it's not necessary to have 2, I just like them for getting the wheel back in place quickly. I would also need to use 2 size bolts if I didn't use the tensioner on the other side, so it doubles as a spacer.
Stumpy with ENO rear wheel is another option. nmsslug
Nov 13, 2003 8:15 AM
Stumpy with ENO rear wheel ...thanks ssluggnew
Nov 13, 2003 9:45 AM
I guess if I just bought the rear wheel from Sheldon Brown, I could put it on the Stumpy...and save myself some $$$...thanks for the suggestion...I'm still trying to figure it out.
Check Ernesto on this forumpushbike
Nov 13, 2003 10:29 AM
Also, email webcyclery and bikeman to get quotes for an ENO built wheel.

Also check http://www.peak.org/~fixin/fmu1.0.html
Ernesto?? Whaddya think?gnew
Nov 13, 2003 11:01 AM
Is it worth 200 bucks or so to put the ENO Hub/Wheel on a ten year old bike?
My 'ol Stumpyxrmattaz
Nov 13, 2003 1:14 PM
Works great with 34/18 gearing, no chain tensioning device needed!

Just a thought.
Just wait...ernesto from Wisconsin
Nov 13, 2003 2:04 PM
Just wait til the chain starts stretching, and there's a saggy booby chain on your bike
200 miles now.xrmattaz
Nov 13, 2003 4:54 PM
On the Stumpy sans Singleator. Chain is not taut, but still within spec. This is my commuter bike, and not subjected to the stresses of actual off-roading. Works fine thus far.

Your point was?
only...ernesto from Wisconsin
Nov 13, 2003 2:02 PM
only if you love the frame so much, or if the frame is in exceptionally good structural condition, then yes, ENO for all.

ENO works on vertical drops, and also on horizontal ones.
surly hubsTACSTS
Nov 13, 2003 6:30 PM
I built up a 1x1 a couple months ago and I went with Surly rear hub laced to a Rhyno Lite XL from aebike.com. About 100 bucks if I remember correctly. Been ridden pretty hard, and still perfectly true. For the front I also went with aebike for a LX hub laced to a Salsa delgado rim, also still true. it was something like $44. Try looking there for a SS specific rear wheel, they have several other options besides mine, you can go with various mavic rims, etc, but I would suggest a Rhyno.
I don't get itwooglin
Nov 13, 2003 6:59 PM
I don't get the fascination with an SS hub that uses a freewheel. I can see if you munch wheels where you'd get a stronger build with one, but other than that I see no advantage and maybe some disadvantages. I run a gearie hub with spacers on my 1x1, and I can adjust the chain line real easily. I can also swap out the cog for one of different size far more easily than I could if I had to crank a freewheel off all the time (my roadie has a freewheel and its bad enough, getting a torqued on SS f/w off would really be a pain). Lastly, from what I hear SS freewheels don't last too long.

And on another note, my old Stumpjumper frame rides far better and is lighter than the 1x1. I'd still be on it except I like a suspension fork and its got a 1" head tube. If yours has vertical dropouts and is in decent shape I think you should try setting it up with that gear that was mentioned earlier, file a flat onto the axle to take up a little more slack as the chain stretches, and replace the chain more often.
 


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