|   What would be the dream setup? (stock) | Kimche
Dec 9, 2001 6:43 AM | | money not an option |
| re: What would be the dream setup? (stock) | Surboard921
Dec 9, 2001 11:31 AM | | Here's my dream setup:
Seven cycles Sola custom geometry frame(Titanium)
Middelburn RS-7 pro trials crankset(not available in north america:()
Capriolo Titanium trials fork
Chris king: headset, discGo tech hubs front and rear, and their new bottom bracket that will be available soon
Koxx Try-All rims 36holes 4X lace
Dura-Ace rear derailleur, chain and 5gears cassette
XTR rear shifter
Hayes 6inch brakes front and rear
Brooklyn Machine Works shinburgers pedals
Brisa stem & bar
Snafu grips
Velo mini seat
Michelin hot S red tires
I can't think of a sweeter ride;) |
| Do you know what Shin Burgers weigh?? | Optikal
Dec 9, 2001 12:16 PM | | Y'OUCH!
Why ruin a perfectly good bike by putting heavy ass pedals on it? |
| Do you know what Shin Burgers weigh?? | Surfboard921
Dec 9, 2001 2:03 PM | | It's just a "dream setup" so I thought about the nicest components without thinking about the weight, I don't actually have a bike like this since it would cost at least 4-5k
Your're right they weight a ton, maybe some good'ol double cage pedals would be fine, of the F.U.N.N. pedals too |
| re: What would be the dream setup? (stock) | Slow
Dec 9, 2001 5:40 PM | | Capriolo Five Ti stock frame, Capriolo Alu Fork, Easton Monkey Lite Carbon bars (26") with extenders to (27-28"), Titec Stem, King head set, King front and rear disc hubs 3X laced to Sun sub iv rim in the front and a rhyno lite in the rear (2nd rear wheel with king disc hub and monty 25" rim), Magura Marta disc brakes, Shimano ultegra short cage rear derailleur and XT/LX 9 spd shifter, Ultegra 9 spd cassettes, Middleburn Isis trials cranks (coming soon), Uni seat, Monty foam grips, and VP pedals. I'd also have a front change setup with a Hope ultra lite hub (68g) with a ceramic Mavic rim with 2x DT revolution spokes for a XTR front v-brake setup. All pending money not being an issue of course- |
| re: What would be the dream setup? (stock) | uphiller
Dec 9, 2001 9:36 PM | | mine would be something that could be ridden on trails, as well. i have an illegal stock bike that works greta for trials-type stuff, but when i'm trying to descend steep, rocky terrain the long stem really makes the bike a handful.
as such, i'd like a bike with a long-ish front end and something like an 80mm stem- short enough to prevent endos during descents, but long enough to still be able to lift the rear wheel in hopping and pivoting sections.
so... something custom and probably steel, steep seat angle (this allows me to keep my weight farther behind the seat on descents); ~12.5" bb height (high enough for clearance but not unstable); 15.75" stays (any shorter and i'd run into chainline problems); ~14" frame (small for clearance but still large enough to run a long post and be able to ride normally); reinforced for a rear disc brake; 26" front wheel, 24" rear (lower cg, easier to bunnyhop, quicker acceleration, stronger; w/ a big tire the real diameter is more like 25").
avid mechanical discs front and rear w/ ultimate levers; answer alumlite bars (my all-time faves); suntour xc-pro thumbshifter; isis northshore 170mm cranks w/ half bashring, two rings; 8sp xt cassette; xtr rear derailleur, whatever up front; kore B52 stem; some kinda ti post; king hubs w/ steel driveshell; rigid fork w/ all of the offset in the dropouts; atomlab pedals; wtb laserbeam front rim, sun rhyno xl 36h 24" rear; z-max 2.1 front tire, irc kujo dh 2.35 rear.
that's all. i'm guessing 25-26lbs |
| You want a cove STIFFEE SL...isnt that right SpecP3 | OrBust
Dec 10, 2001 12:08 AM | | Dood seriously, the cove stiffee sl is exactly what your looking for. SUPER sloping top tube, really short chain stays(16" I think), fairly light, long top tube. My buddy has one, 24" rear, 26 front.....and its sooo easy to trials around and bunnyhop, and guys ride them on north shore......so they must downhill pretty damn good to. He has about a 80mm stem on his. It rides alot better then my mod I used to have....and sooo much better at trials then any xc framed conversion I have ever rode. Its one of those bikes you hop and and just feels soooo comfortable, and everybody that has rode it thinks the same thing. But I have only seen ONE in person, ive never heard of anybody else having one. IF you ever get a chance to ride one you'll be impressed, guranteed, its the exact bike you are looking for. |
| You want a cove STIFFEE SL...isnt that right SpecP3 | uphiller
Dec 10, 2001 5:53 PM | | well... i really don't want a suspension fork at all, and the cove is set up around a 4" fork. also, the frame has no reinforcement for a rear disc brake, it has just an unsupported mount. i also don't dig aluminum. |
| You want a cove STIFFEE SL...isnt that right SpecP3 | specP.3
Dec 10, 2001 7:13 PM | | The stiffee SL is by far the best handling hardtail to my knowledge, you can set up the cove to be a sweet trails rig by running v's in the rear, put a set of Z5's with Xheavy springs and heavy weight oil. When you want to really rip down hill swap in some lighter springs and toss on the rear disk. The conversion should take no more than 15min, plus you have a bike that can handle a wide range of riding styles. Save your money, buy one bike instead of two.
Later |
| Don't buy a cove for trials.. | Surboard921
Dec 11, 2001 9:54 AM | | I remember a review here on mtbr I think it was on the DH forum or something, The guy was just starting out trials and he only screwed around a little bit, when he tried to hop on the rear wheel he ripped his brake calliper(disks of course) right out the frame, and when he called the Cove to see if he had a warranty or something, the guy at Cove LAUGHED at him and said there was nothing to do since none of their frames were covered for trials(I think his frame was the normal stifee but not sure)..... Back in those days I was interested in a Stifee sl but now I know you gotta stay away from those bikes. |
| the dream setup | Fred
Dec 11, 2001 2:55 PM | | i've said before and i'll say it again:
-custom frame-titanium(gun metal grey!)
-long toptube(>23in) so i can run a short stem(<50mm)
-400mm stays
-11in frame with no seat
-24x3.0 back tyre with 36mm Tioga rim(only ~560g)32 hole 3x
-24x2.1 front tyre wheel
-dual disc brakes hope mini's or formula B4s
-cut down motocross bar 29in or a light MTB riser bar
-single speed 22/20 gear ratio
-12 or 12.5in BB
beautiful setup...for hardcore trials, think I could get it to 24lbs maybe less
PS: I am trialing on a modified(as in with a rigid fork)dual bike frame running discs and haven't had any problems with the discs destroying the mounts! Its a hitec/Heavy tools dual frame. |
| weights | OrBust
Dec 12, 2001 1:14 AM | | Hey man...unfortunately, a 3.0 tire weighs about 3 pounds, and those moto bars and chunks of lead to. Why not just stick with standard 2.4ish rear tires and normal mtb bars?? |
| well | Fred
Dec 12, 2001 6:00 AM | | Cause 2.4in doesn't cut it! If a mod has a 2.5in tyre why should stock bikes have smaller rubber! you can go bigger on stock bikes so u want more grip and more cush so that why i suggested a 24x3.0. Yes at the moment they weigh around 1400g but with new tech they could go down to 1000g. |
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