|   How do you do this? | ryan7
Dec 24, 2001 12:02 AM | | I want to japslap onto an object that is wide but not very deep, in order to do so I must rotate 90 degress in the air.
How do I?
In my normal japslap I start with my (bad) left foot forward and finish with my left. Like this I can rotate well enough to the left, to the right however Im afraid I suck.
Should I
1. Keep the same technique and just learn to japslap to the right, or
2. Should I learn to japslap right (good) foot first and finish with the left essentially mirroring the move.
3. Something else entirely?
Thanks y'all
Try to relax on your hectic eve's day. |
| Use "View All" | ryan7
Dec 24, 2001 12:05 AM | | I wrote:
In my normal japslap I start with my (bad) left foot forward and finish with my left.
I should have siad that I finish with my right, unlike the other way some do it. |
| You should try... | Surfboard921
Dec 24, 2001 10:25 AM | | to use a side hop instead, the version of the sidehop with a pedal kick, it should get you high enough. |
| What's a "japslap?" (nm) | Nat
Dec 24, 2001 5:21 AM | | |
| What's a "japslap?" and more... | ryan6
Dec 24, 2001 11:08 AM | | Ok, and then just side hop directly across, didnt even think to try.
Im pretty sure japslap is the name of what I was doing. If it is its a little move you use to get yourself up or across where there is little or no room to build speed. (there are two different but similar methods) In the one that I use your bad foot starts the move from level or just above- or below sometimes- in order to get you moving a little. Then as your good foot comes around to the top of its nmotion you are lifting the front - if you havent already- and starting to kick with your good foot. At this point it is much like a pedal kick that started with both wheels on the ground. Eventually you will jump off you good foot and hopefully you'll go up or across whatever it is.
But wait.
What if what I am jumping from is long and skinny and my bike wont fit on sideways. I think Im gonna have to teach myself how to rotate right- damnit, I wanted it to be easier. |
| sidehop to rear... | ~ScaryFast~
Dec 24, 2001 12:18 PM | | Did you think of that? Might not be able to get as much height, but some riders actually sidehop to rear better than to both wheels...differences in technique I suppose. |
| sidehop to rear... | ryan5
Dec 24, 2001 4:47 PM | | No I cant side hop off of what Ill be jumping from because its not wide enough for my bike to fit.
The distance isnt much, a little over a bike length so maybe japslapping to rear would work well- but then if I dont land it well and turn to side before letting the front drop Im screwed.
Thanks guys, youve helped me to learn that I just need to stop being lazy and try something new. |
| sidehop to rear... | Regder
Dec 24, 2001 5:01 PM | | hehe, what you described sounds like a pedal gap. As I posted earlier Jap Slap really has lost all meaning. I'm pretty sure it originated to describe a touch hop but has grown to encompass every known trials move. |
| sidehop to rear... | ryan4
Dec 25, 2001 2:15 AM | | Yeah, See I have no idea myself, I usually dont learn the names of things because I guess I dont talk about trials that much outside of the internet- or at all.
I have never heard the term 'pedal gap' before but that would be a good name, sounds appropriate atleast. |
| Jap Slap.... | Kami
Dec 25, 2001 2:15 PM | | is actually a racist term that was used to describe the technique that the Japanese riders developed, where they would hit their front tire against an object, and use the spring to get more height. So yeah, a touch hop would probably be the same thing. |
| Jap Slap- one diff from a touch hop! | AndyT
Dec 25, 2001 4:43 PM | | In a touch hop you tap your front tire on top of the object- seemingly "touching" it on your way up to rear wheel. In a Japslap you hit the object with your tire as you are going up to rear wheel- see the difference is in touch hopping the wheel hits the object by landing on it and the tire compresses giving you more heighdth. In a japslap your front wheel hits the object at about the same height as your hub- so much lower and this technique is in the long run better. If you are going onto something huge you cannot touch hop, it isn't possible or necessary because your thighs will hit the bar too early. But if you do a japslap the handlebars are lower when they hit the object and you get a surge of power right as you hit the object. Hope some of this made sense to someone :) Much easier to show you in real life :P |
| Not sure..but suggestions :) | AndyT
Dec 25, 2001 5:02 PM | | I don't really understand your problem but from what I can gather it is always good to learn doing moves to both sides of your body. This will help you out in the long run as you get better as a trials rider and as you progress into the harder realms of competition :). I would suggest doing a surge in your case- though I don't know if you know what that is it is basically the following. From as close to the object as possible with your front wheel facing it you "surge" up to rear wheel...you do this by putting your but down to the seat and then jumping foreward, releasing the brakes and doing a pedal kick all in one instant. May sound hard but it is a good technique to have and you can get up really high stuff with no run up (especially if you go to bashguard). |
| Not sure..but suggestions :) | ryan4
Dec 26, 2001 1:53 AM | | Yeah, both sides I agree. I cant help though that rotating right is unnatural for me.
My only problem is that I dont rotate to the right well and I need to rotate 90 degrees to the right across a small gap to land on a wall that is about 7 inches wide.
I think pedal gap is the proper term for the move as it is just that with a rotation thrown in.
I already know what I have to do. I have to try it.
But I dont like doing things Im bad at.
On flat ground I can almost (really close) hop a rolling 360 to the left. I can barely get a 180 to the right.
The problem is that I am not extremely good at pedal gaps and because I am already uncomfortable with the basis of the move adding to that an unpracticed and underdeveloped element makes the learning phase a blunt obstacle to approach, Im just procrastinating like some shit.
thanks Andy
Ryan |
| Not a japslap | Slide
Dec 28, 2001 1:30 PM | | Unless you are tapping your front tire on the edge of object, which then pops up your bike, its not a japslap, a touchhop, or a japtap.
Are you trying to pedal up to wheels? Or go to rear wheel? Or sidehop?
Visit http://www.trials-online.com/ or biketrials.com and first define more clearly what you are trying to do.
Are you planning on going to rear wheel on this? The picture is of a rider using the japslap to go up. |
| Not a japslap | ryan3
Dec 29, 2001 9:00 PM | | No No, I thought it was called a japslap but thats not what i wanted to do.
I got it now anyways, not as well as i want or as consistent but a start.
I just wanted to do a pedal gap with a rotation. |
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