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Is Sugar good for me(5 posts)

Is Sugar good for meDM
Sep 1, 2001 5:48 PM
I'm wracked by indecision. Have a hardtail thats too big for me but have a good set of components on it. Also have a sore back. Now i see a 2000 GF Sugar three in a shop at a price that i've never seen in this part of Aust before. Two questions
1 Its a small so feels quite different (but I'm used to a big frame)but i'm only 5'7 , standover height is right and i think medium would be too big. What thinkest the people out there?
2. Its a heap of money (despite the discount) for me to spend when i already have a bike thats ok. Will i buy this and love it so much i dont care once i fork out the cash. ie is it easy to be a sugar junky.

Please help me through this difficult time!
Thanks
D
re: Is Sugar good for mejayc
Sep 1, 2001 8:02 PM
i own a Giant NRS and it's a small. I stand about 5'8 and weigh in at 155. The bike is perfect for me.
re: Is Sugar good for meskip
Sep 2, 2001 9:48 AM
Yes it is good for you!!! My wife went from being a bumbling beginner on her Trek 7000 hardtail to being able to handle most anything on our local trails within weeks of getting her Sugar 3. The geometry of it is sweet, and both climbing and descending are much easier because of it.

Beware of the crankset! The 2000's had really bad shifting due to crappy cranks/rings. See the review section of mtbr.com.

I'm 5'-8" and ride a small frame, though I feel comfortable on a Sugar medium, too. My wife is also 5'-8" and rides a medium.
re: Is Sugar good for meBUG
Sep 2, 2001 9:52 AM
Depending on how hard you're going to ride you may have some issues with the frame braking. I have a buddy that cracked his, and he's not all that " extreme". I have also talked to a few honest shop dwellers and all have seen a few reterned cracked. It breaks on the seat tube pivot. all and all it's not that bad a bike though if you treat it right. My buddy rod ehis for about a year of pretty solid riding before it went down the crapper... now they're talking three months to replace his frame, bum deal for him.
hope that helps, personaly I woldn't buy one but i'm a little harder of a ridder I like to jump everything. Don't know all the prices but check out the Giants and the Specialized frames both have a great reputaion fo rholding up.
Yep, that was an issue for '00 frames...MD
Sep 3, 2001 4:03 AM
It's true that the first year production (2000) Sugar frames had a manufacturing defect where a break would appear in the butt weld at the seat tube/main pivot junction. This happened to my '00 Sugar frame two months after I bought it, and was reportedly happening to other '00 Sugar frames. I got my frame's front triangle replaced by GF in about a week and half though under warranty, no questions asked. It appears that the problem has been remedied (knock on wood) since they are now using what is supposed to be a longer metal insert that fits internal to the butt weld that offers the weld more support. I've heard that the original insert wasn't quite long enough.

I haven't heard anything about this year's frames breaking in this area (or any other area for that matter) though. Also, if you look at Trek Fuels and Klien Adepts, they share the same exact butt-welded main pivot, and I haven't heard about those breaking there either. That's the game you end up playing with first year production models though, since there are commonly bugs that still end up having to be worked out. By the way, a Sugar is an absolutely awesome and fast purpose-built cross country machine, but it ain't no drop-off or dirt jumping bike.
 


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