|   225 LB Clydesdale Seeking $2000 to $4000 Full Susp XC Bike | fattirewilly
Jan 8, 2002 12:30 PM | | I have some ideas of my own but I wanted to throw out the question of which bike would be good for a XC rider my weight 225 and I'm 6'4". The largest drop I'll probably ever do is 2', so I don't want a "freerider/trail bike". I looking more in the XC race to light trailbike area. I might do a race or 2 annually. Price as mentioned can range $2000 to $4000. Let's here some ideas. I'll mention what I'm looking at later so I don't influence anyones comments. |
| re: 225 LB Clydesdale Seeking $2000 to $4000 Full Susp XC Bike | Hank
Jan 8, 2002 12:48 PM | | at the lower end of the price scale I'd look at the Titus Loco Moto and Ventana Pantera. At the higher end maybe the Ventana El Salt and Turner XCE. |
| re: XCE | fattirewilly
Jan 8, 2002 1:21 PM | | Turner is on my short list. What about the O2? It is only 5.5 pounds instead of 7 pounds. I'm probably to heavy for the O2, but I think they make the large O2 somewhat beefier. I was planning on calling Turner and getting their opinion. Of course I'd rather not spend $4,000....wife might notice. |
| I'm no expert, but | Hank
Jan 8, 2002 3:05 PM | | yes, I'm sure a call to Turner would clear up things pretty fast. Personally, I think it's good to err on the overbuilt side. Regarding $$$, I would take a look at that new Ventana Pantera--very beefy looking at a good price. |
| too tall? | Roy
Jan 9, 2002 6:39 AM | | I'd guess you're easily too tall for the 21" frame so you'd have to get a custom XCE. They only charge $225 or so more which is a mere 10% but your wait time would be lengthy - a couple of months.
But you'd have a custom Turner. 'nuff said. |
| or custom 02 | Roy
Jan 9, 2002 6:41 AM | | I left the 02 off but meant a custom XCE/02 - whichever you think you'd prefer. |
| I called Turner Bikes | fattirewilly
Jan 10, 2002 12:52 PM | | They were very helpful. They recommended the XCE with an airshock. They said the 21" fits a 34" inseam and that a 21" would weigh around 7 pounds. |
| make sure... | Hank
Jan 10, 2002 1:18 PM | | make sure you are getting an accurate measure of your inseam. I'm 5' 11" and have a 33.5 inseam--and I don't think I have unsually long legs. For tips on measuring your inseam, look here:
http://www.coloradocyclist.com/bikefit/
Just for reference, another got measurement is middle of the bb to the top of your saddle. My road bike is 77.5 cm and I run my mtb saddle at about 76cm. |
| More importantly | Roy
Jan 10, 2002 1:30 PM | | make sure the Top Tube/cockpit is long enough. Standover clearance is pretty useless, or at least not very important for frame sizing as long as you have any clearance there, imo. The cockpit is where you're going to be spending countless hours.
For your size the 21" TT seems a little on the small side. |
| re: how 'bout a psycle werks WILDHARE? | ncfreerider
Jan 8, 2002 2:14 PM | | I'M ALSO 225 LBS. AND I'VE BEEN ON A WILDHARE FOR ALMOST 2 YEARS AND I LOVE IT. VERY VERSITLE AND HAS A NICE GEOMETRY. YOU CAN SEE MY RIDE ON THE P.W. WEBSITE. |
| I rode a Racer X last year | slowideclyde
Jan 8, 2002 3:33 PM | | Had no problems with it, other than the fact that I should've bought the xl instead of the large. I'm selling that frame but might buy another. I'm just over 6'2" and 205 lbs, although I was 215-220 when I bought it from Charles Coker. A guy around here named Green Giant is also a clyde and loves his RX and has ridden them for some time, apparently with no problems. |
| Hmn interesting | JimC
Jan 8, 2002 3:50 PM | | I'd have thought a Loco or a Switchblade would be a more plush choice, but I'm just doing the "armchair quarterback guessing" thing. Jim |
| someone at Titus told me he's working on an xl Switchblade | slowideclyde
Jan 8, 2002 4:54 PM | | Plush for me or for him? I'm looking for something more plush but I thought he wanted an xc race/light trail bike. I imagine the new RX would be a bit more supple than the older version. A Switchblade might better suit this guy, and me for that matter, but he's pretty big for the large. I know from my RX experience that I'd need an xl Switchblade. There's a good chance I won't buy another RX, but I can't rule it out because it was a really fun bike. I'll bet your Bullit would be fun too, but I already walk too many hills with my little xc bikes.;( |
| SB is heavy for racing... | JBone
Jan 8, 2002 5:08 PM | | ...and the high BB wouldnt help matters. Great trail bike though. But what I wouldnt do for a slighly longer top tube... |
| plush vs not | JimC
Jan 9, 2002 12:06 PM | | I guess my faulty thinking says: if you're a clyde, then 1.734 lb more really doesn't matter, if comfort and handling are key. But I guess he may want it lighter and "racier".
It was just a thought, shoulda kept my thoughts to myself, eh? Jim ^:o/ |
| Clydesdale trailbike........ | clarkgriswald
Jan 8, 2002 3:45 PM | | Titus Quasimoto frame (XL)
Fox Vanilla RC rear shock
Marz Z1 Freeride fork
Mavic F 519 rims, 14ga spokes, brass nipples with XT hubs
Avid Mech Disc brakes
Avid Ultimate levers
Thomson post and stem
Answer low rise bars
SRAM 9.0 der and shifters
XT Front Der.
Race Face Turbine cranks with ISIS BB
Shimano 545s
Flite saddle
ODI grips
I've had it for two months and love it. |
| Bit over kill ... | RP
Jan 8, 2002 4:38 PM | | No doubt a nice bike but not quite the light/XC ride fattirewilly is looking for...
For light/XC riding a RacerX is a better fit or the Hammerhead 100. I've seen a custom X built for a giant which might be the best approach.
Turner and Ventana are also good places to check out for pushing the size envelope... |
| True enough...... | clarkgriswald
Jan 8, 2002 5:11 PM | | just my opinion. I go for durability for over light weight. I tend to consider the trails here in Phoenix when I think about bikes. I often forget not everyone gets to ride the nice, rocky stuff we have here. If fatirewilly is riding smoother trails than the Racer X is a good choice. |
| My Trails and my current hardtail | fattirewilly
Jan 8, 2002 7:59 PM | | I live in Atlanta. My local trails range from almost groomed single track to trails with a mix of single track and rocky fire roads. My current ride is an Airborne Lucky Strike with a mix of LX/XT/XTR/RaceFace. I'm keeping the hardtail, so the FS bike will see the rougher stuff (isn't that what every hardtail convert says?)
The fork is a Z-2 x-fly which has been great but needed rebuilding in 1.5 years. Rebuild cost me about $120 and I did the work myself. Doesn't leak air. Nice when the bushing aren't shot.
Experience some flex in frame when hammering out of saddle. If I did a hardtail over again I might try a beefy alum fram and a susp. seatpost.
I had good luck with a Manitu SXR fork as a backup ($125). I ordered the heavy spring kit for it, but I went back to the bomber after I rebuilt it. |
| Hammerhead 100x | Bill Stewart
Jan 8, 2002 4:40 PM | | I am in the same position as you
after a LOT of research, I ended up ordering the 24.25 Hammerhead 100X from Hammerheadbikes
I spoke with Charles Coker, he had no reservations about my weight on the bike considering it's intended use, (same as you)
I can't freaking wait!!
Bill |
| I'm no clyde..... | The Squeaky Wheel
Jan 8, 2002 4:46 PM | | but the Hammerhead 100-X is worth the wait.
Congratulations on a wise choice.
I couldn't be happier.
The Squeaky Wheel |
| Hammerhead 100x | fattirewilly
Jan 8, 2002 7:24 PM | | Everyone, I as always the feedback is great. How long do you have to wait for a 100x?
One year there should be a MTRB party somewhere (Vegas anyone?). Anyone with 10 or so good posts should get and invite. I'd pay at the door to meet some of the people who frequent the site. |
| The waiting is the hardest part.... | The Squeaky Wheel
Jan 8, 2002 7:27 PM | | I waited longer than I wanted, but it is worth it.
Let's see....I ordered the bike in early October and it arrived just before X-Mas. About 10 weeks.
I comforted myself during that time knowing that the boys at Titus were slaving away and paying attention to every last detail.
The Squeaky Wheel
PS. Would love to come to a MTBR shin-dig. Let me know the dates...... |
| party! | fattirewilly
Jan 8, 2002 7:42 PM | | I only wish I could take credit for this site and give you a date. However, unless someone objects I will take credit for the MTBR party idea. Talk about a fund raiser (IMBA??), if you charge $30 at the door you could still make $10-15/person depending on the spread. |
| already one in planning, MTBR Spring FLing III | Charles Coker
Jan 9, 2002 6:24 AM | | no dates or specifics yet (check the passion page) but for the last 2 years there has been an event in AZ in March, around Spring Break
Ride South Mtn around Phoenix (and get a chance to check out the Titus factory) head up to Sedona and ride there..
Pretty big group last year, unfortunately, I went with some buds who didn't want to do the big group thing, anti socials...
so, I didn't really get to hang out with the group,
they had a big dinner on Friday I think
anyways, should be lots of fun and we are planning on going..
only hard part is there is way more riding to do than there is time to do it... arg...
think about it
Charles |
| SF3 may be smaller, or not at all | JimC
Jan 9, 2002 12:19 PM | | it got too big last year, and the locals, bless them, have hosted us idjots for 2 years now. It may be small and informal. Unfortunately, I can't make it, even if it happens. Jim |
| Go coil... | JBone
Jan 8, 2002 5:03 PM | | ...an airshock will just blow on you. You'll need a pretty stout frame as well, and double bearings wouldnt hurt either. Id try an Aeon Isis, Turner XCE, and Ventana El Saltamontes or Pantera. Most XC racing frames are going to be to fragile, get something with a little more beef. You'll be alot happier.
An ex Clydesdale |
| Go coil...Are you sure? | fattirewilly
Jan 8, 2002 7:31 PM | | What air shocks do you have experience with/blown up? A coil will add a half pound to anything I get. In my $$ range, the shock price isn't an issue, but I was thinking air. Maybe even a Turner XCE with air instead of Coil. I have only demoed bikes with air shocks, so I'm not well versed in this area.
Are you an EX Clydesdale because you lost 10 pounds or quit riding?? |
| Go coil...Are you sure? | JBone
Jan 8, 2002 9:24 PM | | Unfortunatly the seals on air shocks arent the greatest at handling heavy loads, and more often than not will blow out faster than a lighter rider. I personally use an airshock, but I weigh in at 155 (I used to be 215, thus the ex clydsedale remark). I have a good friend that works at a shop as a wrench, and he said he says a higher amount of blown shocks with heavier riders. All the bikes they sell in that shop are fox equiped, so I cant speak for rockshox/stratos/cane creek, but I doubt they'd fare much better. |
| Turner with air=3.6 travel(nm) | Quattro
Jan 9, 2002 2:09 AM | | nm |
| Go coil... | Charles Coker
Jan 9, 2002 6:34 AM | | Just thought I should add this:
just because a guy is bigger doesn't mean an air shock is going to blow on him
I am 200lbs and have ridden rear air shocks for years, the only failure I had was with a Risse about 4 years ago, one time.
I do think that it also has to do with the bike it's on, it's travel, design and leverage ratio
for example a bike with a low leverage ratio like a Racerx will run lower pressure, I run 150PSI in my HH 100X or on the Racerx before it.
it's getting 3.8" of travel out of a 2" stroke shock
a bike that say runs a shorter stroke shock, say a 1.5" with a high leverage ratio, i.e., bike with more travel, say 4.5" I would be running 280 or so..
The Fox shocks can easily handle 300 PSI
If I were to completely bottom out my shock and it spiked from 150 to 300 PSI I am still safe in the operating range of the shock
I would say that the 1.5 with 4.5" of travel running 280PSI would have a higher chance of blowing the seals on max travel...
however, I have ran such bikes and never had a failure
now, I am not doing 10ft drops off of houses..
in that case, absolutely get a coil and a beefy 9lb frame designed to handle it...
I have sold a lot of bikes and very, very few rear air shock problems....
just my .02
Charles
hammerhead |
| Go coil... | JBone
Jan 9, 2002 11:14 AM | | Mine developed a leak during a run at downieville, not alot, but the seal does leak (Im on an SB set to 4.5", so a 3:1 ratio). I weigh about 155 and ride aggressively, but not 10ft drops. |
| Go coil... | Rider Mel
Jan 9, 2002 7:20 PM | | Howdy, a lot of good advice here (especially in this part of the thread). I wouldn't argue with these guys from a product knowledge standpoint. That said, I've found the coil just feels better. I've tried air shocks many times (and yes they were tuned by experts) and I just don't like them as much. In going to full suspension you are adding weight unless you do some pretty sillly stuff so I say ride both and see which YOU like better. Don't let the weight be too much of an issue.
Cheers!
Mel |
| Hammerhead 100x | Green Giant
Jan 8, 2002 7:18 PM | | As was mentioned I've been a huge Racer X supporter over the last few years. ZERO problems, ZERO flex problems, and the bike is outstanding. However I've wanted a tad more front travel -enter the hammerhead 100x. Just as effiecent as a racer x, a tad stiffer now with the new X link. Straight gauge downtube, and a boxed rear. It is outstanding. I'm 215 or so these days, and have been +/-15 in either direction. It's a great XC/light trailbike. It is exactly how I use it and it's just fantastic. Highly recommended. Look for my other posts or drop me an e-mail. |
| Hammerhead 100x geometry your size ect. | fattirewilly
Jan 8, 2002 8:08 PM | | What is your height, inseam, arm lenght ect. I typically go with a 21" frame. I'm 6'4 with 34 inseam and 35/36 sleeve length in my shirts.
The 100x is interesting. If I only had 1 bike I might pick the Racer X, but since I'm keeping my TI hardtail I'm still consdering bikes with 100mm of travel. I still going to race this thing... |
| Hammerhead 100x geometry your size ect. | Green Giant
Jan 9, 2002 5:14 AM | | Well, you are much taller than I am. You should talk with Charles at Hammerhead bikes, you are going to need a big ol frame. I know he has been considering an extra large size frame (24 or 24.5 inch TT). I ride a 23 inch tt at 5'10. It's a great ride. If you are keeping the Ti hardtail, no reason not to get 100mm up front. Though I will tell you I notice the jump from 80-100mm up front much more than from going from say 3-4 inches in the rear. |
| Same here.... | The Squeaky Wheel
Jan 9, 2002 5:57 AM | | I've amazed at the difference between 80 & 100mm front travel.
Probably has something to do with the quality of Fox. I loved my 80mm bomber, but I didn't realize how quickly it progressed through its travel until I got the Fox. Also, the Fox is amazingly stiff which results in more more precise steering & tracking.
The Squeaky Wheel |
| what about xl 100x? or he could go ti x built for 100mm fork | slowideclyde
Jan 9, 2002 6:47 AM | | I thought about a 100x, but after really crunching the numbers, even the large won't fit based on the fact that my 20.5" X is too small. I would be interested if Charles does make an xl 100x, although there could be a significant wait to get enough orders for Titus to build a batch of them. You say going from 80 to 100mm up front was very noticeable. As someone who has ridden a normal X and the Hammerhead X, what are the main differences with the longer travel? |
| Well..... | The Squeaky Wheel
Jan 9, 2002 7:55 AM | | Let me clarify...I never rode the standard Racer-X with 80mm geometry. I believe Green Giant has extensive experience on that one, and I know Charles Coker is an old pro.
The big change for me was going from 80mm to 100mm travel. I notice the biggest difference during drop offs, big hits, and coming off logs. The 100mm fork on the slacker headtube allows me to remain more upright & centered over my bike. The dreaded "I'm about to endo" sensation occurs much less frequently and I don't have to worry about getting my tush behind the seat as much.
It also probably has something to do with the quality of the Fox. I ran Marz bombers for years and thought it was the "gold standard" for modern forks. But the Fox continues to amaze me, especially since I got the Float which is air sprung (1st time I've run an air shock since my old Mag 20). The 2 biggest differences over the coil bomber is more progressive travel and the stiffer chasis. Until I got the Fox I didn't realize how quickly the coil fork moves through its travel, even when properly adjusted.
The Squeaky Wheel |
| Yeah, I was asking Green Giant | slowideclyde
Jan 9, 2002 10:14 AM | | In addition to the fork question, I was wondering about the xl 100x that he mentioned.. |
| what about xl 100x? or he could go ti x built for 100mm fork | Green Giant
Jan 9, 2002 2:49 PM | | Well, first I don't think the headtube on the 100x is slacker, rather it is built to handle like a normal x, but with 100 up front. That extra travel can really make you feel as though it is slacker, since it allows you to make more mistakes with that extra travel (if that made any sense at all). Bottom line, handles on rails still. As to the travel up front...
I've also got a fox forx up front (float). On many 100mm bikes I've felt as though the front end was too tall and that that hurt climbing. The 100x does not feel that way. The bike is built lower up front and has a shorter headtube - a good thing IMO. The ONLY difference between the two bikes is that the new x-link is slightly siffer (but an new rx has that also) and the front end.
The front end really allows you to run it more plush - a bit more sag in the fork leading to a plusher ride up front, and on big hits it just sucks it up. It's weird, when I went from a 50 to 60 to 80 mm fork I didn't notice much, from 80 to 100 - seems much more noticable, not sure why but I don't care. The nice thing is by just adding a bit of air it firms the front up also. That is it, not a whole lot of other differences. But for myself it's the perfect balance. I do a bit of racing (both normal and endurance) but mainly I ride, and that's all I call it riding. Woods, out west, etc. To me, it's a mountain bike. with big fat tires, more of a trail bike (serac xc, backcontrys, smoke/dart etc). With lighter tires - explorer pros, revolt x's etc - a bit more efficient ride.
It rocks. |
| one more for ya Green Giant | slowideclyde
Jan 9, 2002 4:34 PM | | As someone who has ridden the old RX and the new design with the swing link, how would you compare the two? I can't imagine the new design being much stiffer because the old RX was already very stiff. Does the shock feel noticably more active, more supple or less prone to stiction? |
| no problem | Green Giant
Jan 9, 2002 5:35 PM | | Here is one of those things where you are waiting for someone to twist your words. However I'd first tell you that I NEVER had a problem with my old X. It was plenty stiff and stiffer than most bikes I have ridden. Before I go on I would tell you that if you have a screaming deal on an older X sitting there - jump on it.
Now, that said. This is a case where the one word answer is yes, it is stiffer, more active, and slightly more subtle. However the difference is slight. When bikes are this "good" you get to a point of diminishing returns. The differences are slight, but they are noticable. On the hammerhead the bike is also just a tad more stiff also due to the non-butted downtube and boxed rear. Again - subtle. But nice.
The best way to put is is this. Say that suddenly the "new" racer X never exsisted or suddenly was gone and I had to get a new bike tomorrow. There is no question that the first and only bike I would look at is the old racer x. But are the updates nice - heck ya. The best thing is Titus didn't decide the bikes cost 500 more bucks as a result (see Ellsworth...) They pretty much left the cost as is...
Flat out awesome. The hammerhead offers just a bit more for me, but just outstanding. |
| The 100X is a half degree slacker than the X in larger sizes.... | Metroid
Jan 10, 2002 7:48 AM | | The Hammerhead is a 71 degree headtube for all sizes (with the 100mm fork). The Racer-X is 71.5 for the M, L and XL (with an 80mm fork). |
| IM SELLING THE BIKE FOR YOU IM SELLING THE BIKE FOR YOU!!! | bonz
Jan 8, 2002 9:24 PM | | Hello
my name is frank and I have the bike your looking for It's a 2002 cannondale jekyll 3000 and has never been ridden NEVER ON THE TRAIL OR ROAD! im selling for $3000 over $500 off after tax and just perfect for you Because im 6'4" 230 lbs and have riidden many jekylls befor i got this one and they are grate bikes perfect for the type of ridding you talked about, and at an awsome price.
If you are interested e-Mail me and make an offer at Frankibonz@msn.com |
| Re: Single Pivots(Jekyll and Heckler) | fattirewilly
Jan 9, 2002 7:38 AM | | Single pivots are generally known for reliability and ease of maint, but don't quite measure up to 4 bar or hoist link rigs in the performance department. I do most of my own maint so cleaning something every now and then isn't a big deal. I'd probably destroy the 24 hole UST rims. Thanks for the offer though. |
| re: 225 LB Clydesdale Seeking $2000 to $4000 Full Susp XC Bike | Davep
Jan 8, 2002 10:14 PM | | For that kind of cash you can build a sweet 2002 Santa Cruz Heckler, YES they re-introduced the HECKLER frame for 2002.
The new HECKLER frame has 5" of rear travel, if you couple that with all XTR or and XTR/XT group and a Fox Forx Float RLC fork, you will have one sweet bike.
I am about your wieght, usually 200 but with the holidays and rain more like 220, and I ride a SC SUperlight. I ride off 3' drops with no problems. I have had the bike forever, well 1.5 years, and never had any issues. But now with the 5" of travel, I am drooling at the heckler.
I run a
XL SC SUperlight
RS 2001 Psylo Race
Chris King DicgoTec hubs on Mavic ceramic D321 rims
XTR parts
Thompson stem/seatpost
Bontrager FS2000 seat w/gel
Shimano 858 pedals
Easton Monkey Bar riser handlebars
Salsa clamps/skewers
SRAM Attack shifters
This setup has worked really well!
Lates-
Dave |
| Serotta CST Ti with a Marzocchi Marathon! | SerottaMon
Jan 9, 2002 7:26 AM | | Just built one of these up--custom Ti so you can have them stiffen it up for your weight, 1.25" of rear travel (no pivot) using a Stratos air/oil shock and slap a Marzocchi Marathon on the front--this is the ultimate in XC bike. I switched to this from a high end Jekyll and my riding style matches yours--its a perfect compromise between a hardtail and long travel full suspension. Rides like a rocket ship. Check them out---www.serotta.com
On top of that, there aren't many folks riding Serotta out there--you won't run in to many on the trail!
Brad |
| Serotta | Zorak
Jan 9, 2002 7:32 PM | | Agree 100%! Serotta mtb frames are one of the best kept secrets out there, because they're thought of as a road frame company.
My Legend Ti is a pleasure to ride, and I'm in the market for another mtb... The steel Odile hardtail is on my short list.
Tailwinds (from another Serotta fan)! |
| My Short List | fattirewilly
Jan 9, 2002 9:37 AM | | Closer to $2000 I'm looking the Yeti Arc, NRS 1, FSR, and maybe a Fuel. I'm not to sure about these mass produced race bikes at my size. I've demoed a 21 inch Fuel and Yeti and like both. I don't know if I could get used to the FSR look. The NRS gets rave reveiws, but the tubing is super thin and I've read where you can't buy replacement parts for the frame.
At the top end I was looking at Turner O2/XCE and the Racer X. I'll look at Ventana too (anyone know what they want$$ for their frames). For a racer X I'd go with alum instead of TI for the stiffness. I've thought about a Truth, but ruled it out. |
| Another option | clarkgriswald
Jan 9, 2002 9:54 AM | | Quasi in the 4.5 rear travel setting with an air shock, I think the 02 has the alternate leverage connection on the shock (Check Titus' web page for a more accurate description of what it does. it is in the Quasi owners manual) and a matching Bomber in front. The Racer X is still a good choice. Talk to Allen at Titus he is the expert. |
| Ventana pricing..... | Ventanarama
Jan 10, 2002 12:11 AM | | If you're leaning more towards the $2000 range then the Pantera is really the only Ventana option. The Fuego & Saltamontes retail for $1895-$1995, (not that you'd have to pay retail:) The Pantera retails for $1295. Definitely an option to consider. The pivot has 2 big bearings on each side and a beefy rear end, stiffest single pivot XC bike you'll find. Sherwood also uses downtube tubing for the top tube in the big sizes. Visited Ventana over Christmas while I was in that area and the Panteras are looking sweet, Sherwood's done a lot more work on them since the prototype he had at Interbike. Comes stock with the Float RL (lockout) rear shock. Most likely the heaviest of the frames you are considering in that price range, but I think that's a plus in your case, certainly should be more durable than the NRS, FSR, etc. Let me know if you have more questions about Ventanas. (masi2@msn.com)
Larry Mettler
www.mtnhighcyclery.com |
| custom ti Racer X | rb
Jan 9, 2002 9:50 AM | | I'm 6'5", 200 lb, had a ti Racer X built last year after Speedgoat convinced me I couldn't really fit on any standard sized bike. You should definitely consider custom, if you're going to spend that kind of money, you should get a bike that fits you well. This is the first bike I've ever had that really fit me, and I just love the bike (see the review section for more detail). I spent $3500 with XT and a Psylo SL, don't know if prices have gone up this year (the frame was $2200 last year). With the ti frame you get a lifetime warranty, a nice plus for people on our end of the weight scale. E-mail me if you have any more questions on my bike or if you want any tips on convincing the wife you need to spend that much. |
| custom ti Racer X | fattirewilly
Jan 9, 2002 10:24 AM | | Any weight or flex penalty going Ti instead of Alum. I like my Ti hardtail, but I question Ti's usefulness in a FS design when so much time is spent trying to remove flex from the linkage ect.
I do like the lifetime warrenty!! |
| ah, hello. what about the wildhare? | ncfreerider
Jan 9, 2002 11:35 AM | | it's 5.5 lbs. great geom. great quality and has 3.5-4.5" of adj. travel. it is a really valid option.(in my opinion) here's mine. |
| appears valid indeed, but ... | fattirewilly
Jan 9, 2002 2:39 PM | | will they do a custom build. The largest frame on their web page is 20". I will typically take a 21" since it is the biggest available. |
| custom ti Racer X | rb
Jan 9, 2002 1:25 PM | | I agree, I don't see any advantage to ti in an f/s frame, the only reason I got it is that that's what Titus uses on the custom frames (it sure is pretty though). I don't notice any flex when riding, though it's kind of hard to judge; when you hammer you're going to get some suspension movement, so that might mask any flex. It certainly feels more solid than my DB V8 f/s did, and that was a much smaller frame. As far as weight, mine weighs 27.8 lbs, which I think is pretty good for a bike of this size with a 4 lb fork and heavy pedals. |
| ti RX is slightly heavier | slowideclyde
Jan 9, 2002 4:26 PM | | But that's because it's overbuilt to remove any flex. Charles has mentioned that here before. If you have any Titus questions, Titus is usually helpful (1-800-85-Titus) or talk to Charles Coker (hammerheadbikes.com) as he is the Titus guru. |
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