|  How is the Truth as a race bike? | timjboston Jan 9, 2002 8:08 AM | | Does anyone out there race on the Truth? If so, is it best w/ an 80mm or 100mm fork? I want to get one bike that I can both race on and train on, and I'm apprehensive about getting a 3" travel bike b/c my training rides will be primarily on technical terrain. |
|  re: How is the Truth as a race bike? | gryk Jan 9, 2002 12:35 PM | | I race my Truth w/ a 100mm fork and works fine for me. You can do both race & train using the 100mm fork. Didn't you just order the Hammerhead 100X? |
|  You'll be 87 feet ahead of everyone else... | Mossy Jan 9, 2002 12:53 PM | | According to their ads from a year or two ago.. Never really understood how they arrived at that number. Seemed pretty ridiculous!
My guess is it probably wouldnt be as efficient as a short travel design (Sugar, Adept, NRS) but unless youre at the top-levels of competition, it probably wouldnt hold you back much |
|  You'll be 87 feet ahead of everyone else... | gryk Jan 9, 2002 1:05 PM | | I remember the ads, but my fat ass needs to be 187 feet ahead of the competition. |
|  yeah, i did order the 100X | timjboston Jan 9, 2002 1:17 PM | | i posted that query this a.m. however, i spoke w/ charles for quite awhile, and e-mailed some other truth riders, and made the decision to go w/ the 100X, which i am psyched about. basically, at 170 lbs and as someone who is very hard on mountain bicycles, the stiffness of the 100X is what did it for me. on top of that, i love the fact that its made by Titus (esp that the frame manufacturing isn't farmed out, so that control over the manufacturing process is much easier) which has a solid rep for customer service. also, i have the leverage of charles coker behind me (sells a lot of titus bikes), which is a big plus. |
|  Hmmm.... | GT Jan 9, 2002 6:29 PM | | If you ordered the 100X, why post info regarding the Truth? Second guessing your purchase? Just kidding. To "farm" out manufacturing isn't necessarily a bad thing. Automotive manufacturers do it all the time (frames, tools, etc). Being in the manufacturing industry (automotive), sub-contracting is the way to go, there is better control of quality and cost. But, that may not hold true in bicycle frame manufacturing.
There have been some gripes regarding customer service at Ellsworth, but from what I understand, they are taking it pretty serious. Whether it's a Ellsworth or Titus, you are in good hands with Charles. Once you get your new ride, I would like to read your take on it. |
|  I tried my '01 Truth w/ 100mm X Fly as a race bike this year... | wfl3 Jan 9, 2002 4:01 PM | | ...because it was the only mountain bike I had left. It wasn't too bad on the rough courses, but was a little too heavy/inefficient on the smoother courses - especially the courses w/ a bit of climbing. I'm going back to a hardtail for racing this year, but I'll probably still use the Truth for any solo 12 hour races I do for the comfort factor. |
|  well... | JustinTime Jan 9, 2002 8:33 PM | | I've never raced one, but the bike is probably too much of a general purpose trail bike (i.e. too much travel and "do it all" geometry) to be a GOOD race bike. I'd RACE your hardtail or look at a limited travel FS. I wrote you a response below, but if you get a chance then test ride a Klein. kleinbikes.com
-Justin |
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