|  Jamis | Nightcon Nov 30, 2002 10:31 AM | | What do u guys think of jamis bikes? especialy the 2002 jamis dakota 17' aluminum i went to my LBS and saw one it looked good. How much do they seem to go for? he was asking 950$ for it but i dont know if i should pay that much for it. Any one got any thing on this bike? thanxs |
|  Jamis | hardtail Nov 30, 2002 10:45 AM | | If you have followed the Jamis brand over the last few years, and read tests of their bikes (Mountain Bike Action has done a few), you will know that they make good performers. MBA really likes their HTs and FS bikes. To my knowledge they are like most bike brands these days: American distributors/designers/engineers-sometimes, but made in the Far East. This is not a bad thing from a bike standpoint, as many factories in Taiwan are doing cutting edge manufacturing. Heck, I think that Specialized-which is partly owned by "Eastern interests"-has moved all of its manufacturing over there.
I can't comment on that specific bike, but look around on the web for comparable pricing. I don't think that you will be unhappy with the J. |
|  Jamis | CTRider Nov 30, 2002 10:57 AM | | I almost bought the '01 version of the Dakota AL last spring, but the salesperson was a total d*ck and he was trying to sell me a bike that had obviously had some key parts taken off of it to sell as parts.
But I do remember the bike being light and agile and spec'd out with great components for the price. My bike was missing it's suspsension seatpost, which I would have probably asked to swap out anyway for a credit or to have something else upgraded. But the salesman at the LBS I visited tried to convince me that the bike wasn't supposed to come with t rock shox seatpost (I guess he didn't think I had done my homework or something).
Had I received good service I would have gone with the Dakota AL and I think the '01 was going for a little under $900 last May or so.
I think you are very safe if you go with the Jamis.
Good luck! |
|  re: Jamis | Horace Whiffletree Nov 30, 2002 11:57 AM | | I believe the 2003 Jamis Dakota retails for 1299.00. 950.00 is a very fair price for the 2002 model. Try finding a 950.00 bike with the same specs as the Dakota XC. It's a great bike, plus it's Reynolds steel!! Solid. |
|  jamis... | kam Nov 30, 2002 12:05 PM | | makes great bikes! they are usually spec'd very nicely in their price range and they have a life time warranty on their frames. if you can...try to spring for a dakota xc, the steel one. very nice for the money(mostly xt with a nice set of tubeless tires), and steel is real! i think i've seen some jamis dakota xc's go for about $1100 ($950 for a dakota al with mostly deore parts is just way too much!!!).
also, jensonusa.com has some awesome prices on jamis frames. you can get the eureka frame,lx disc kits and a six super 100 fork and still be under $950. and check out the khs fxt complete bike thing they've got going. for $900 you get the khs fxt frame, a duke xc fork, and a mix of deore/lx and a set of magura julies.
cheers. |
|  jamis... | CTRider Nov 30, 2002 1:45 PM | | Be careful of JensonUSA though. I could have gottena complete '02 Eureka for $725.00 from my local bike shop.
I think Jenson buys out leftover Jamis bikes and then breaks them up making money on the frames and a lot more money on the parts.
Does anyone think this is what they do as well?? |
|  That's SHADY | fut Dec 1, 2002 9:30 AM | | Is it still new if mounted, but not used? Either way they should fess up if its OEM stuff. |
|  I still have my 96 Dakota Al | MDD Nov 30, 2002 8:39 PM | | I still have my 96 Dakota Al. I mostly commute with it now but still ride it off-road 2-3 times/month. This bike has taken a beating over the last 7 years. It was my only bike, used 3-4 times per week, for the first 4 years I owned it. Can't really comment on current models but if mine is any indication you should be getting a pretty solid bike. Good Luck. |
|  re: Jamis | nalax Dec 1, 2002 7:39 AM | | Note that Dakota's are made in an XC(steel) version and also an AL(aluminum). The 2002 specs are different also with the XC having better parts and tubeless wheelsets.
If you want a deal, wait until the 2003's are out and the 2002 wil be cheaper. Depending on what market you live in, winter can be a slow time for bike shops
That said, Jamis are really good riding bikes for the money. Their Dragon rides as well as any high end bike. |
|  re: Jamis | campy3 Dec 1, 2002 3:07 PM | | As for jenson usa they dont buy complete bikes and part them out, they just buy the frames that jamis was not able to sell. The eureka frame is 115 on the site and is more of a freeride hardtail similar to the strength of some kona frames. the 03 eureka comes with a marzochi 5" dirt jumper 2 shock. its pretty much made to beat the hell out of. they also sell a durango sx frame which is light(about 3-4 pounds) and is 95 bucks. if you bought the right cheaper parts over time on the net you could build a 25-28 pound hardtail for under 600 with lx/deore parts. i personally dont think its worth it when you can buy a 2003 durango sx for 580 with deore 9 speed parts that are good enough for most riders. but if your looking for a better bike giant has a xtc 2 for 1100 which has parts very similar to the jamis dakota al which is 959. if you dont mind spending more than 1000 you can get THE best hardtail out there for the money, being the jamis dakota xc. tubeless wheels, light steel, xt parts, skareb fork. probably the best combo out there for the price. obviously if you want the best bike you gotta pay over 3000 because the new xtr prices went sky high. i doubt you will be able to find a dakota xc on closeout from the 02 though, they always sell out. thats why you dont see the frames on the jensonusa website =) |
|  re: Jamis | CTRider Dec 2, 2002 9:16 AM | | If they don't buy complete bikes and part them out then they definitely buy frames and original equipment directly from Jamis.
I've done a lot of research into Jamis bikes and a lot of products on the Jenson website definitely match original equipment that were on '01 and '02 Jamis bikes (Manitou Six Super, the even advertise OE stems etc. etc.). Click on a frame and then look at the list of what customers also bought...most likely it will very closely resemble original equipment.
I'm not saying this is a bad thing per se, just something to be aware of when you are ordering from Jenson.
As for Jamis frames and bikes......I do think they are a good bang for the buck most definitely! |
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