|   This one is for all the Ellsworth ID riders | mtnbkr
Mar 8, 2003 7:27 PM | | Thinking of a new ride, just wanted to get your thoughts on how you like or dislike your ID.
thanks in advance J |
| re: This one is for all the Ellsworth ID riders | Ivabign
Mar 9, 2003 7:00 PM | | I had an ID for about 4 months that I sold for a HH 100x. What I liked, pedaled nice, nice handling, great finish. What I didn't like, built up with mostly XT, hope discs and Fox Vanilla the bike weighed around 31 honest pounds. The bike was great going downhill and it climbs nice for a plus 30 pound bike, but it was just not as responsive as I like going uphill. If I didn't live in an area that required constant climbing to go anywhere I might have kept it. I also loved dealing with the people at Ellsworth, espcially Andrew in support. Great guy that got back to my email messages sometimes in a matter of minutes. |
| re: This one is for all the Ellsworth ID riders | TruckeeLocal
Mar 10, 2003 10:34 AM | | I have a medium ID with Romic, Vanilla R, XT (including XT disks), 646 pedals, Crossmax XLs and Motoraptor 2.4s. A shock to me was that it weighed in at 31 pounds, clean. I don't like the graphics, specifically the Ellsworth font, and the head badge is a stickon. On the other hand it climbs easily (better than I expected), handles the downhills way better than my hardtail, is one of the best finished bikes I've ever owned, and seems to be fairly rugged. You might be able to get as good a bike for less (or more) money but, from my perspective, not better. |
| What about bb height? | Flowbe
Mar 11, 2003 6:57 AM | | I noticed neither of you guys commented on bb height. Did you get used to it or was it ever even an issue? Thanks, Josh |
| Glad you brought that up | Ivabign
Mar 11, 2003 4:01 PM | | I forgot because you probably will too. With my Vanilla 125 RLC and Romic shock and Maxis Mobster tires my BB was under 14". Not by much, but it still was. With the normal sag after you sit on the bike I thought it was just about right for a bike like that. It never felt nervous or 'tippy' to me. |
| inconsistent production | derby
Mar 11, 2003 5:02 PM | | I measured one Id with a 14 inch BB height last spring. And another more carefully noting tires, shock and fork, at 14 3/4 inches BB height just a couple weeks ago (Romic, Vanilla RLC 5-inch travel fork, 2.0 Hutchinson tires). Both were medium sizes.
Very inconsistent production runs I'm guessing.
- ray |
| Rear Shock Length? | Crafty
Mar 12, 2003 9:13 AM | | A change in shock length is plausable as well. A length change
there, as you may know, raises and lowers the BB and affects
geometry as well. I looked into an Id when the first came out and
Ellsworth offered that frame with a 7.875i2i Fox or a 8.0i2i Romic.
The Romic would give you a bit more travel, but would also raise
the BB. If the bike were running different shocks, maybe that could
be what you saw. I test rode an Id once (Romic shock)and felt it a
bit tall during steep climbs, unless I knew of the climb in advance,
and had time to shorten the fork(Psylo), then it climbed great.
All in all, a fun ride. |
| yes | derby
Mar 12, 2003 10:13 AM | | I don't recall the shock or fork on the first one I measured with the 3/4 inch lower BB. I suspect as you suggest that it had a different shorter travel shock and 4 inch fork to be "low" at 14 inches. But that's too high for a 4 inch travel fork. The seat and head tube of the Id geometry is well suited to have 4 inches of travel, but too steep for a 5 inches of travel to be as well rounded and a versatile technical ride compared to many other bikes. But with steep angles it should climb less technical but very loose terrain as easily if not more easily as many other 5 inch travel bikes.
- ray |
| bb height | TruckeeLocal
Mar 11, 2003 5:31 PM | | Uhh. Ahh. It's higher than my other bikes. But so what ? Not an issue. Actually it's becoming an advantage 'cause of the extra clearance. By the way the specs on the Ellsworth site about standover height are rubbish. |
| re: This one is for all the Ellsworth ID riders | spongebob
Mar 11, 2003 3:58 PM | | I've been riding a large Id for about 11 months. I built it up myself, to my personal specs and likes. Romic, XT rear and front der., thomson stem & seatpost, monkeylite riser bar, XTR shifters, speedgoat hanger, AmCl hubs laced 14/15 to Rhyno lites, (superbly built by Mike Garcia, Oddsandendos.com), Vanilla 125 RLC, Sram PC 69 chain and 7.0 cassette, truvativ stylo, ATACS and a bash ring instead of the big ring....Avid mechanicals, King headset, WTB Speed V and various tires, depending on the weather. I recently got the new 03 rear seatstay up stiffen the rear and also because I don't see myself buying anything else in the near future, even all the new technology. I don't ride fast, I ride technical trails, up and down, and wear body armor because of all the rocks. When I got the bike, I noticed the bb height right away. It only slightly bothers me on fire road ascents, never on descents and makes me smile on rock gardens and technical downhills. I've even put a salsa bash guard on instead of the 3rd ring. HUGE benefit going over the downed trees. It seems to me a XC bike, with more strength and weight. I came from a Truth and the Id just is better for a 210lb person like me. The rear can be stiff or plusher with a twist of the Romic dial, but it doesn't seem near as plush as my buddy who rides a Giant AC. Of course, he watches me from behind on the climbs! I'm waiting for the new Marz. Z150 in order to balance 6"to 6" suspension. I also like my front end up more than other riders, so I have not cut the steerer on my Fox. I do feel higher in the saddle than other bikes. The finish is fine, not the 'ultimate' but better than painted. The welds are not as good as I would think for a bike at this price,.....I would say they're average. I am not a weight weenie because those products just don't hold up to the trail punishment and 6-8 hour rides. So I wouldn't think you could go too much below 29 lbs if that's what you're thinking. I wish I was looking for a bike this year, because of all the great new trailbikes being introduced, like the Jamis XLTs or Iron Horse Hollowpoint or the Giant VTs, at great price points. And with the new rear shocks, is it really necessary to buy some bike designs, when a shock can correct 'bob'? I'm glad you've had good CS experience. If you look back at some of the postings in archive, you'll see other POVs. Hope that helps.
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