|   Talas fork on HH100X | Hammerheadbikes
Mar 12, 2003 11:26 AM | | Since I have seen several postings inquiring about running a Talas fork on a 100x I am posting the following:
I put one on my Hammerhead and love it.
Being able to run it up to 5" mode brings up the handlebar, slackens the headtube and seatube angles as well as raising the bb height.
all of which makes it even easier to go down __really__ steep scary stuff.
It's easy to adjust on the fly while riding
bombing downhill is a blast, big grin kind of fun :)
it won't void the warranty on the hammerhead with the straight guage downtube and gusset.
additionally, being able to drop it down to 80 for an extended climb is nice.
Being able to dial in your headtube angle is really nice too, if you for example wanted it to be just a "hair" quicker or more "stable" you could fine tune the headtube angle with just a few clicks
it does feel a bit more plush than the Float 100RLC I had been running but not overly so, i.e., the front and rear still feel balanced
thanks
Charles |
| How's the Talas action compared to the Vanilla forx? | derby
Mar 12, 2003 5:06 PM | | Is the Talas as stiction free as the Vanilla?
Can you compare performance such as bump absorption, brake dive, and damping adjustments with the same travel?
Thanks,
- ray |
| Sounds like just the ticket. I was afraid of that..... | KRob
Mar 12, 2003 5:44 PM | | Now all I have to do is convince my wife that I need a brand new $700 fork for my almost brand new bike. Not to mention get on the waiting list again, right? What can I get for a one year old used Float R? Anyone? |
| They look soooo similar, how'd your wife know you switched? | Tscheezy
Mar 12, 2003 6:03 PM | | Oh yeah, bank statements. Doh!
I know Larry has a few in stock RIGHT NOW and Charles may also...
Mmmmm... new Fox.
tscheezy |
| You're not helping... | KRob
Mar 12, 2003 10:01 PM | | Actually she wouldn't notice if I switched to a bright purple anodized Monster T just by looking at the bike..... but she keeps the books so I'd be screwed there. Let's see. Do ya think I could get 300-350 for my fork on E-bay? Then I only have to come up with another 300-350. People have them in stock you say?
Nope. She can hardly imagine why anyone would pay that much for a whole bike, let alone half a fork. |
| Well, if it's help you want, come over here my friend... | Tscheezy
Mar 12, 2003 10:21 PM | | if you can get $350 for your Float on eBay, you only have to hawk enough of her jewlery to raise another $200 to set yourself up with a fine, new Talas RL and sell one of the kid's kidneys (he's got TWO for petes sake) for another $50 to get the RLC.
Come on, YOU have needs too.
tscheezy |
| I like how you think. You have some experience..... | KRob
Mar 12, 2003 11:21 PM | | in this sort of thing I can tell. Actually I think I'd go for the TALAS R at $465. Then I could spare the kid the painful surgery to remove his kidney. Besides I'd never use the lock-out on my HH. |
| Be careful! We women have a sixth sense for those | Kpicha
Mar 13, 2003 4:13 AM | | things! WE always knoowwwww what you're up to ;-)
Cheers,
Kristina |
| Sounds like just the ticket. I was afraid of that..... | Hammerheadbikes
Mar 13, 2003 6:10 AM | | we have a few in stock Rob
return customers get preferential treatment :) |
| Ah, save your dough | Jaybo
Mar 13, 2003 2:24 PM | | The float is fine. Oh, boy, you can adjust the travel. Sorry, but I'm not a huge fan of the adjustable travel thing. You may be. I will shut up now. Laugh. Seven hundrend dollars for a fork is outrageous! Wait a year, the thing will be $350 at Pricepoint or Supergo. |
| $700?? Where do you shop?? More like $450-600 (R-RLC). nm | Tscheezy
Mar 13, 2003 5:28 PM | | depending on model. |
| Regardless.... | Jaybo
Mar 13, 2003 10:46 PM | | It still is a lot of cash! Maybe it will add $300 worth of value to his riding experience. Maybe it won't. It wouldn't mine, but I don't ride his bike. He does. Buy it! I'm sure your wife will get over with some time. I'd be dead meat after buying the Tracer. Well, I would have some less then optimal experiences with her. |
| Compression rate | gurp
Mar 12, 2003 8:08 PM | | During my limited time on one I found that it blew through its travel to quickly, any problems with that? Fox seems to be delaying orders for it so Im wondering if theyve fixed it before they start shipping lots of them. |
| Compression rate | Hammerheadbikes
Mar 13, 2003 6:14 AM | | it's more linear than a float but I don't find it blows through the travel too easily
you could always add a tad more oil on the damper side to make it more progressive towards the end of the stroke
Charles
Hammerhead |
| Wish I'd have had that info before you sold me the Float RL (nm) | Jgang
Mar 13, 2003 7:10 AM | | |
| Wish I'd have had that info before you sold me the Float RL (nm) | Hammerheadbikes
Mar 13, 2003 9:32 AM | | I did offer, you didn't want to spend the extra coin :)
but, we will be glad to swap it out for you
Charles |
| Ooooh, here is Charles offering to <i>set you up...</i> | Tscheezy
Mar 13, 2003 12:02 PM | | *reaching for wallet* These guys will treat you right and cut you quite the deal too. After all, there is a scratched up one on eBay with a cut steerer which just sold for awfully close to what Larry or Charles will sell you a shiny NEW one for. That oil height thing makes it more tempting too... hmmm...
tscheezy |
| Charles hits another one out of the park.... | Jgang
Mar 13, 2003 12:06 PM | | Is this guy something or what? |
| Wish I'd have had that info before you sold me the Float RL (nm) | Jgang
Mar 13, 2003 12:13 PM | | I didn't realize you could get the Talas R for only a few bucks more vs the Talas RLC for quite a bit more. My bad. Either way, I appreciate the offer and may just have to take you up on it. :-) |
| Wish I'd have had that info before you sold me the Float RL (nm) | Jgang
Mar 13, 2003 12:56 PM | | I didn't realize you could get the Talas R for only a few bucks more vs the Talas RLC for quite a bit more. My bad. Either way, I appreciate the offer and may just have to take you up on it. :-) |
| Compression rate | jbone
Mar 13, 2003 12:51 PM | | Adding oil just slows down the compression, it doesn't change the rate of progression. Should be fine if you tend to keep your bike on the ground though. |
| I took Charles's comment to mean... | Tscheezy
Mar 13, 2003 1:42 PM | | adding oil would decrease the air space in the fork and cause the fork to ramp up sooner. That is how it works for bottoming control in the Zokes as far as I know. I imagine this is done in the air spring side, not in the damper side (which I think would not enjoy the addition of too much oil).
Clarification?
tscheezy |
| I took Charles's comment to mean... | Hammerheadbikes
Mar 13, 2003 1:56 PM | | correct
adding more oil volume will decrease the air chamber size and thus cause it to ramp up more
increasing oil weight (from say 7 to 10) would slow the fork down both in compression and rebound
you don't have to add much oil..
talking a table spoon
you could also do it with the fox float fluid on top of the air piston
you would have to experiment to find the right amount, too much and you will limit travel |
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