|   Why does Ellsworth Moment standover say 31" on website?.>> | Udi L
Jan 16, 2004 10:49 AM | | on thier new website it says 31 inches which is what the ID is listed at..i thought that was the whole point of the moment..addressing the BB height and standover height of the ID whcih some didint like..me not included..i love my ID..anyway, is that weird? comments and anwers? thx |
| Might be because... | Quattro
Jan 17, 2004 5:10 AM | | You can use a 5-6 in. travel fork and have two different rear travel options. So they probably give you it when using the highest travel options. |
| Standover Clarificaton... | Bikezilla
Jan 17, 2004 8:53 AM | | You may want to check where on the TT the moment standover is measured at. The location can radically affect the results. (Due to tube slope)
The Id specs listed on the site are incorrect.
The Id actually has a BB of more than 15" (as reported by some folks here and in a couple of mags)
The ID standover as indicated was measured directly up from ground through the BB.
The general standard way to measure the standover is about 6.5" in front of the BB. That is to say, with a level crank, just behind the foward pedal axle. On a 175mm crank that comes out to about 6.5" in front of the BB.
I assume this method is chosen becaus this is a place closer to where people actually stand, and the measurement method can be easily replicated. Measuring straight up through the bb can be misleading because the slope of the TT brings the height lower at that point. But most people don't stand over the seat. They stand in front of it.
FWIW the Id I looked at was listed as a 32" standover . I stood over that bike and could barely clear the TT. I own another bike that is also listed as 32" and have about 6"(real) between the TT and my true-inseam 38". On that same bike, the TT standover is 2" lower when measured through the BB, so where it is measured plays a big part.
In the end, like any bike, you'll have to wait to see what the production values are to know for sure. Sometimes the web listings are done before the final design.
-Bikezilla |
| THANKS FOR THE COMMENTS!!! NT | Udi L
Jan 19, 2004 6:06 AM | | NT |
| Or maybe...... | timmyb
Jan 20, 2004 3:03 PM | | you'd better measure your Id and a same-sized Moment. Ellsworth lists the Id BB at 14"--must be WITHOUT TIRES! Moment looks sweet (as do all Ellsworths), but buyers should do their diligence. The Moment should relegate the Id to those who ride rough (long travel), flat (VERY high BB, steep HA) trails. Now THAT is a niche product! |
| This was discussed on new Ells forum.... | El Jester
Jan 21, 2004 5:49 AM | | but if you have not made the switch here it is. The numbers on the web are incorrect. I contacted Ellsworth cust svc and they confirmed that the Moment standover heights are correct in the catalog and are as follows:
S(15") - 27" M(17") - 28.5" L(19") - 30.5" |
| Where is the standover measured at? | Bikezilla
Jan 21, 2004 1:37 PM | | At the seat tube junction or at the forward pedal axle?
-Bikezilla |
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