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Please explain the Ellsworth ID angles to me in laymans..>(5 posts)

Please explain the Ellsworth ID angles to me in laymans..>Eddy O.
Jan 21, 2004 7:13 AM
what does it mean that its geered towards XC with its angles? what does that mean exactly..it can be a racers bike as well? why is high standover a negative thing for a bike? i get the high BB thing to clear logs and rocks..its the other 2 things im confused about..can someone take 5 min and please type some informative answers to this newbiw who is about to spend 3000 walnuts a a frame with 2 tires on it:) lol..and i work my ass off, so please, i want to make the right informed decision..i really like this frame..but i eed these quedtions answered..thx again in advance..
My $0.02...AndyH
Jan 21, 2004 7:18 AM
>what does it mean that its geered towards XC with its angles?

It means that the headtube angle isn't so "slack" (i.e., relaxed) that the big feels sluggish on climbs due to a floppy steering feel. A steeper headtube angle will give the bike a quicker steering feel, which would be better for XC compared to the slacker angles you might find on a more freeride or DH oriented MTB.

>why is high standover a negative thing for a bike?

Tougher to dismount in nasty terrain without crunching "your boys" on the top-tube.
My $0.02...duc135
Jan 21, 2004 11:53 AM
I'd also add that a it has a steeper seattube angle as well. Putting the riders weight farther forward to help out with climbs. There's my $0.02. Now you've got $0.04.
What other bikes have you considered?
My $200.00jebb
Jan 22, 2004 2:13 AM
Hmmmmmmmmmm

I own a ID, a size 17, and i am 189 cm high, the bottom bracket is really high, but you will get used to that, and it will clear everything coming along(no crankarm scratches...) it is not slack, so i put a marzocchi Z1 on, and it fits very well, with a high rizer bar, and spacers, that will mean you could put on a more xc orientated fork like 100 mm on also and sort of race it.
Note also stand over clearence it very high.
I ride in denmark(flat, with som tech singletrack) mainly trailbiking, aggressive xc it is good at that, but if you dont push it hard, you should look for something a bit lighter with a airshock, like, spec. enduro, norco fluid 1, or the switchblade that seem like also a winner with loads of travel, and a very good 4-bar system, if i were to pick a bike right now i would surely look closely at the switchblad. So you need to do some thinking/testing for getting the right headangle(fork, spacer, stem)
feel free to write me.

cheers jesper welling
re: Please explain the Ellsworth ID angles to me in laymans..>singletrackmind
Jan 23, 2004 11:48 AM
http://www.mtbr.com/reviews/2003_full_suspension/product_122300.shtml

See my Ells. Id review dated 1/22/04
 


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