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Twisted Spoke Lacing . . . . . . . Pretzel Braided spokes.(11 posts)

Twisted Spoke Lacing . . . . . . . Pretzel Braided spokes.Zog
Jun 11, 2002 11:14 AM
In the current Mountain Bike Action Mag (July 2002) on page 92 they show Greg Herbold's new ride. The rear Wheel is laced with what they are calling pretzel braid lacing. It is merely twisting paired spokes on the same side. I would like to do this to my cruiser bike.
Can I use the existing spokes? Do I need to go with longer spokes?
Any one have any instructions for this lacing pattern? Thanks!
Do it4-eye
Jun 11, 2002 12:30 PM
Do it. From what I've seen you need to add about 2mm per twist. Also note if you do a twist and a half, your spoke reverses direction. Lay a wheel flat, and look at a spoke going from hub off to the right. You can make this one go off to the right, then twist it, and then it goes back to the left. What fun.
take a look at the sapim twist spoke nmAlex_uk_xc
Jun 12, 2002 3:06 PM
Twisted lacing is a fad that comes around every few years...DeeEight
Jun 13, 2002 6:39 PM
i've been doing them since 1994. Its been done on BMX bikes since the 1970s. It takes longer to do, needs longer spokes, and does zip-f-all
for anything other than cosmetics aside from the fact if you break a
spoke nipple ona twisted-pair of spokes, the other spoke will hold it
in place and it won't just fall out or jam in the frame/fork. Besides
that there's no improvement to wheel strength or stiffness.
Not twisted but fun all the sameC Jones
Jun 14, 2002 4:18 AM
The twisted are a pain to build, but it works...in that it connects the hub to the rim. If you like the look, great.

I like the Sapim look as well. Here's a home made wavy pattern.
Didn't.................Mike T.
Jun 14, 2002 10:55 AM
.....someone make wavy spokes not too long ago? I think their reasoning was that it broke up the air currents :o\
Who needs reasoningC Jones
Jun 14, 2002 1:15 PM
I recall the wavies from some place, I thought it was Sapim as well. The nice part is it gives the spokey-dockey a sin pattern as it travels along the spoke.

Here's a lovely pattern, only useable if the hub shell is very strong. Radial, no cross, but tangent, each side a mirror image.
My goodness!Mike T.
Jun 14, 2002 5:48 PM
A work of art! But oh what strain on the hubshell! It doesn't seem very practical to me but maybe it would be on a rear disc wheel. The pulling or stressed spokes are all facing the direction of the stress. Nice one!
Who needs reasoningVrock
Jun 15, 2002 2:46 AM
Hey!
I've used this pattern in my front wheel (Shimano LX hub,Mavic X517 32H and DT 14/15 Spokes if it matters), I called it "Spiral Lacing". Now I'm using a 3X with 1/2 Twist and it works fine.
I've always wanted to try that one.Dougal
Jun 16, 2002 3:15 PM
Now at least I know it works.

Dougal.8m.com
I did it !Zog
Jun 14, 2002 12:41 PM
I had some old spokes that were about 6mm longer laying around and decided to tackle this project. The bike is a Kona Aha single speed cruiser with relatively cheap wheels; no name hubs, sun AT-18 rims.
I loosened all the nips a few turns each then replaced pairs of spokes on the same side, twisting three turns each pair. Initial build came out well. Initial tune came out fair. Still have a small hop to take out. Most twists look good; a few look uneven. Not sure of the tension as the whole thing is very solid. Still have some tune work to go!
 


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